I should have re-worded. I would be incredibly surprised if they sold out to ABInBev. Duvel or Heineken wouldn't be nearly as surprising.I hope you're right. But I never expected Lagunitas to sell either. Or Boulevard
I should have re-worded. I would be incredibly surprised if they sold out to ABInBev. Duvel or Heineken wouldn't be nearly as surprising.I hope you're right. But I never expected Lagunitas to sell either. Or Boulevard
I would find this highly doubtful. Every time I've talked with folks from Surly, they've got a pretty negative view of Big Beer.
One of the people I was talking about was the owner. Omar. I've been lucky enough to have a handful of conversations with him.I don't know whether they're considering a sale or not, but what the folks from Surly think is probably not relevant. If one guy owns the company, his vote is the only one that matters.
Nothing to add to the topic other than I had Surly Coffee Bender for the first time a couple of weeks ago and is probably a top 5 all-time beer of mine now. Which is strange because I'm not a hop person at all so most of Surly's offerings don't interest me. But holy cow is Coffee Bender good.
I think Todd wanted to stay "surly". When I started drinking Surly, they were making beers not everyone wanted. This of course was before craft beer really blew up, but they weren't marketed to the masses. With the new brewery, expanded distribution, and growth of craft beer, Surly's direction has definitely shifted. Beers like Xtra Citra make that incredibly clear.Coffee Bender isn't remotely hoppy, so that makes sense. It's excellent,
Am I the only one that thinks 3 Floyds is mildly overrated and that Surly at it's best was better? I like 3 Floyds a lot (love the atmosphere/food at the tap room for sure), but I don't think it stands clearly above. I do think a lot of that had to do with Todd, so maybe that script will flip for me.
Surly doesn't do it for me. Good beer, but they've always seemed super pretentious every time I've gone there.
Just had to bring down the positive vibe a little. Balance things out.
I think Todd wanted to stay "surly". When I started drinking Surly, they were making beers not everyone wanted. This of course was before craft beer really blew up, but they weren't marketed to the masses. With the new brewery, expanded distribution, and growth of craft beer, Surly's direction has definitely shifted. Beers like Xtra Citra make that incredibly clear.
One thing 3Floyds has always done is stuck to their guns. They'll make some odd beer that may just suck, but people will line up and buy it because of the name. I'm guessing Todd wanted the freedom to be able to brew what he wants to brew and not have to worry about making everyone happy.
Also, I think 3Floyds has been pretty vocal about not growing as a company in the beer market. In Indiana once you top X number of barrels, you jump up into the big boys tax bracket and it's not something which would make financial sense. At least that's how I understand it. Like you said, they've got an awesome atmosphere, people still shell out $200 for a diabetes-bomb beer/festival, and line up whenever Zombie Dust hits the To-Go window.
SIL is spending this week in Decorah and is refilling my growler from TG. I've never been so excited for Christmas.This pretty much nails it.
My Surly consumption has gone waaaaay down recently. Granted having a constant cache of employee perk TG in the house and having Pulpit Rock in the back yard has more to do with that than any fault of Surly's. I still see a clear shift in Surly's focus, which I understand from their perspective, but has lessened my interest in the product. That and price.
SIL is spending this week in Decorah and is refilling my growler from TG. I've never been so excited for Christmas.
3 Floyds has some good/great beer but if you ever visit their taproom, plan on hating them.
Why do you say that? I was more impressed with them after my visit there. I didn't go for a big bottle day, just stopped for lunch and a couple beers.
I'm guessing you're not a metal fan/can't tolerate it? I've been a handful of times and I've had mixed experiences. Everything from amazing bartenders willing to talk to you and give you free coasters (they sell them in the to-go area), to bartenders refusing to fill water from their pop gun because that is what a server is for. Overall though, I've had good experiences and I've thoroughly enjoyed the food every time.3 Floyds has some good/great beer but if you ever visit their taproom, plan on hating them.
If you ever get a chance, try the cacoa Bender, even better than the coffee.Nothing to add to the topic other than I had Surly Coffee Bender for the first time a couple of weeks ago and is probably a top 5 all-time beer of mine now. Which is strange because I'm not a hop person at all so most of Surly's offerings don't interest me. But holy cow is Coffee Bender good.
We'll be up the 13th. Staying in Waukon I think but coming to town for the festivities. Think I'll be sitting at TBocks in the morning then Pulpit after that. Didn't get a ticket...yet, but still plan on heading that way.This pretty much nails it.
My Surly consumption has gone waaaaay down recently. Granted having a constant cache of employee perk TG in the house and having Pulpit Rock in the back yard has more to do with that than any fault of Surly's. I still see a clear shift in Surly's focus, which I understand from their perspective, but has lessened my interest in the product. That and price.
We'll be up the 13th. Staying in Waukon I think but coming to town for the festivities. Think I'll be sitting at TBocks in the morning then Pulpit after that. Didn't get a ticket...yet, but still plan on heading that way.