WBB seeding scenarios for the Big 12 Tournament

**Three4Cy** · 03-02-2012, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by acoustimac

Didn't happen last time it was there. Dallas was a horrible site.

Agreed - American Airlines Center is a nice arena, but way to big for the women's tourney.

The women don't need to play in a 20000 seat arena. Happened to catch the last minute of UGA/USC tonight in the SEC - building was ghost town in Nashville, which is what the B12 will look like in Dallas.

**theshadow** · 03-02-2012, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Royalclone

If their teams are good, OU and Baylor WBB fans will follow them to Dallas. They'll certainly do better than MU andKU WBB fans did in KC.

Originally Posted by acoustimac

Didn't happen last time it was there. Dallas was a horrible site.

Dallas was a horrible site, but they got lucky with the teams in the finals.

2003: #1 Texas vs #3 Tech - 10,310
2004: #6 OU vs #1 Texas - 8,226
2006: #1 OU vs #2 Baylor - 10,673

The disparity was even bigger in OKC in 2007. The sessions that OU was in (as #2) drew 10,210; 10,102; and 12,413 (final against #5 ISU). None of the other three sessions drew 6,000.

In 2009 (OKC), the OU (#1) sessions had 7,634 and 9,203. They lost in the semis, and the final between Baylor and A&M drew 4,340.

The Big 12 will need to bank on Oklahoma/Baylor and Iowa State being top-4 teams in the same year in order to get good attendance in OKC and Dallas. The problem is that the women will be playing in the NBA arenas in those towns, which probably means curtained-off upper decks.

**Royalclone** · 03-03-2012, 10:31 AM

I'm not saying that the other locations are better. Muni definitely is the right fit for the attendance, and I'd prefer it 20 minutes from where I live. My real point is that KU and MU have been no help to women's attendance. WIN KC which suppoerts women's athletics in Kansas City is a plus, but ISU and KSU drive attendance in Kansas City.

**mred** · 03-03-2012, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Royalclone

but ISU and KSU drive attendance in Kansas City.

I haven't been to the tournament in several years (2001) but I wouldn't be shocked if OU brings more people to KC than Kansas and Missouri.

**mred** · 03-03-2012, 08:14 PM

Tech pulls off a surprising 64-63 upset @ KSU, making us the 4 seed. Not a big deal, but it also makes us tied for 4th in the conference instead of alone in 5th. Just a few bragging rights things.

**Three4Cy** · 03-03-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by mred

Tech pulls off a surprising 64-63 upset @ KSU, making us the 4 seed. Not a big deal, but it also makes us tied for 4th in the conference instead of alone in 5th. Just a few bragging rights things.

Pretty good for a team that many on these boards thought was dead after an 0-5 start.

**Royalclone** · 03-04-2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by mred

I haven't been to the tournament in several years (2001) but I wouldn't be shocked if OU brings more people to KC than Kansas and Missouri.

They did especially when the Paris girls were there. ISU is really the only one whose fans follow though thick and thin.

**BenEClone** · 03-04-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by mred

Tech pulls off a surprising 64-63 upset @ KSU, making us the 4 seed. Not a big deal, but it also makes us tied for 4th in the conference instead of alone in 5th. Just a few bragging rights things.

In terms of NCAA, every little bit helps. Finishing ahead of KSU, with its gaudy rpi, is an edge. Now, to rebound and get a third win. Then, with even just one win back at Hilton, it'll have been a good season.

As for KC, I like the location and size, but, the city hasn't invested a dime in the facility since I first saw it 12+ years ago. One game is alright, but, the seating isn't comfortable - no leg room - for a tournament.

**kcdc4isu** · 03-04-2012, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by BenEClone

In terms of NCAA, every little bit helps. Finishing ahead of KSU, with its gaudy rpi, is an edge. Now, to rebound and get a third win. Then, with even just one win back at Hilton, it'll have been a good season.

As for KC, I like the location and size, but, the city hasn't invested a dime in the facility since I first saw it 12+ years ago. One game is alright, but, the seating isn't comfortable - no leg room - for a tournament.

If they split weeks as has been stated you could move the womens to the Sprint Center.

**Cysister** · 03-04-2012, 10:47 AM

If you look at these major conferences tournaments this week, Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big East, they are all in large arenas with no atmosphere because of all of the empty seats. I would like to see a smaller arena but know the usual place in KC isn't the bright facility as these other places.

**BenEClone** · 03-04-2012, 06:17 PM

We don't need "scenarios" anymore. Brackets are set. Three upsets on the last weekend changed the final standings, but, none that will affect our games. On the other side of the bracket, UT could be a dark horse.

**mred** · 03-04-2012, 06:45 PM

Two interesting happenings: OU/A&M came down to a coin flip, and the way the KU/UT/OSU tie shook out finally determined which tiebreak interpretation is correct (mine was wrong).

**twistedredbird** · 03-04-2012, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cysister

If you look at these major conferences tournaments this week, Big 10, SEC, ACC, Big East, they are all in large arenas with no atmosphere because of all of the empty seats. I would like to see a smaller arena but know the usual place in KC isn't the bright facility as these other places.

SEC was full when TN was playing.