Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
Yes somewhat. We also have cold weather. We are also not in a big city with great lifestyle opportunities in the city. How many very solid athletic programs are in a climate like us? Very few. It doesn't matter the reasons, what matters is it has been hard to win here and may always be.
We will just have to agree to disagree - your a half empty guy and I'm a half full guy. And there are some programs in our climate that succeed - tOSU, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska and probably others I'm not thinking of but the major diff is they have the money and we don't.