FOUR CYCLONES EARN AUTOMATIC BIDS TO NCAA WRESTLING CHAMPIONSHIP

[LindenCy]

Brackets: http://www.cyclones.com/fls/10700/ST...B_OEM_ID=10700

Thanks so much.

[San Francisco Cy]

I do think that KJ and Co. majorly underachieved last year with all the seniors. But, he lost a ton of talent last year, and this year is definitely a rebuilding year. If we look like this in two years, he should be on the hot seat...but not now...

[CyBobby]

Without Cael, Reader wouldn't be here. Then where would we be?

thats easy.........same place we are right now..........DEAD Last in a 5 team league!!!

[clone51]

The headline is reminiscent of "Lincoln Enjoys Play."

[Wesley]

It really comes down to recruiting. Just like bball, if we recruit like MVC we are going nowhere. If we recruit like Big 12, we can do it.

[CYVADER]

Only four? Sigh. I remember when the norm was ten, if not eleven.

11 huh? unless i've been hit with a boulder in my head, there are only 10 classes, making that impossible to qualify 11. but i'm sure like so many other posters, you know so much about the sport, and how our team is actually performing.

you know your stuff about football aclone, but there are too many like you that just post that the sky is falling without any real knowledge of the sport or our current situation.

losses from last years roster:
runner up at 125(long) kicked off team
4 year starter at 133(fanthorpe)graduated
#1 ranked at 141(gallick)graduated
top backup at 141 and ncaa qualifier(jensen)transfer
4 year starter at 149(mueller)graduated
2 year starter at 174(burk)graduated
top backup at 184(beard)went to play baseball
ncaa champ at 197(varner)graduated
ncaa champ at hwt(zabriskie)graduated

couple that with losing 1 year of recruiting due to caels departure, and what did anyone expect this year.

thats 70% of our starters, and our top 2 backups at 2 weights. imagine that kind of attrition in football or basketball. would you expect a top 10 finish? i know it's kjs job to figure this stuff out, but it would have taken a goddamn miracle to overcome this year.

realistic expectations-top 10 next year, top 5 the year after, competing for a title the year after. if that doesn't happen, then i agree it's time to start talking, but until then, i hope all the neighsayers do a little research before spewing crap.

[Scott34]

"Likely" AA? Not sure on that one. Also, I can't see Schafer winning any matches.

For you to say this is not a fair statement to say about Shafer. He stuck his first round guy that was a higher seed and had a record of 21-11. Cole is one of those guys that could cause some buzz. This kid has the ability to upset some guys at Nationals. I wouldn't count him out if I were you.

[NEICyFan]

11 huh? unless i've been hit with a boulder in my head, there are only 10 classes, making that impossible to qualify 11. but i'm sure like so many other posters, you know so much about the sport, and how our team is actually performing.

you know your stuff about football aclone, but there are too many like you that just post that the sky is falling without any real knowledge of the sport or our current situation.

losses from last years roster:
runner up at 125(long) kicked off team
4 year starter at 133(fanthorpe)graduated
#1 ranked at 141(gallick)graduated
top backup at 141 and ncaa qualifier(jensen)transfer
4 year starter at 149(mueller)graduated
2 year starter at 174(burk)graduated
top backup at 184(beard)went to play baseball
ncaa champ at 197(varner)graduated
ncaa champ at hwt(zabriskie)graduated

couple that with losing 1 year of recruiting due to caels departure, and what did anyone expect this year.

thats 70% of our starters, and our top 2 backups at 2 weights. imagine that kind of attrition in football or basketball. would you expect a top 10 finish? i know it's kjs job to figure this stuff out, but it would have taken a goddamn miracle to overcome this year.

realistic expectations-top 10 next year, top 5 the year after, competing for a title the year after. if that doesn't happen, then i agree it's time to start talking, but until then, i hope all the neighsayers do a little research before spewing crap.

Let's be honest: This wouldn't be near as big of a deal if a certain program to the East hadn't lost just as much as we did--if not more--yet they still find themselves in title contention this season. That's the elephant in the room here.

And as for Shafer, yes I think that is fair. His overall record is not good and I thus I can't see him doing much at the tourney. Everyone at the tourney has some nice wins.

[Judoka]

Let's be honest: This wouldn't be near as big of a deal if a certain program to the East hadn't lost just as much as we did--if not more--yet they still find themselves in title contention this season. That's the elephant in the room here.

And as for Shafer, yes I think that is fair. His overall record is not good and I thus I can't see him doing much at the tourney. Everyone at the tourney has some nice wins.

Iowa did not lose anywhere near as much as we did. The situations don't even remotely compare. We lost not only one of our best graduating classes ever, but also the recruits who were supposed to replace them, and Long.


As for Shafer, his draw is going to determine how he does. With a tough draw he'll go 0-2, but with a good draw there's no reason he can't go 1-2 or 2-2. He won't be a threat to AA or anything, but he might score us some points.

[RayShimley]

Let's not forget to congratulate Jon Reader on a dominating performance. Big 12 Champion with 2 Major Decisions. Ward also wrestled admirably, upsetting the #2 seed and making it to the finals.

[NEICyFan]

Iowa did not lose anywhere near as much as we did. The situations don't even remotely compare. We lost not only one of our best graduating classes ever, but also the recruits who were supposed to replace them, and Long.


As for Shafer, his draw is going to determine how he does. With a tough draw he'll go 0-2, but with a good draw there's no reason he can't go 1-2 or 2-2. He won't be a threat to AA or anything, but he might score us some points.

I don't know how closely it compares, but Iowa lost 8 starters off last year's team. That's even more than we lost. They didn't lose the backups but they also didn't have anything that resembles our dropoff.

As for Shafer, he's going to get a terrible draw. He will be unseeded and face someone tough right off the bat. Sure, he can win a match...maybe.

[CyBroncos]

Iowa's young new faces in their lineup this year have looked way more ready to step in after redshirting than our guys and have improved more during the season.

[Judoka]

As for Shafer, he's going to get a terrible draw. He will be unseeded and face someone tough right off the bat. Sure, he can win a match...maybe.

He'll be up against a seeded guy in his first match, but who the draw puts him up against in the first round of consolations will be the determining factor for whether he is able to steal a win.

[NEICyFan]

Jud, you may have the cardinalist and goldest of the cardinal and gold glassing wearers out there. I like it. Keep up the good work.

[buf87]

I don't know how closely it compares, but Iowa lost 8 starters off last year's team. That's even more than we lost. They didn't lose the backups but they also didn't have anything that resembles our dropoff.

As for Shafer, he's going to get a terrible draw. He will be unseeded and face someone tough right off the bat. Sure, he can win a match...maybe.

Iowa has depth. We have none. We can't afford any injuries. Heck, our starters at 125 and 133 are depth guys. You can even say that about 184 and 149. KJ is getting some studs (Finch, Gadsen, Moreno, Pena, Tanner Weatherman, Cozart), but is also building depth (Riley, Sorenson, Schlosser, Jones, Voelker, England). We need this so when these guys become Juniors and Seniors some are going to develop into AA's. And if injuries occur, we will have a competitive guy to step in.