Next Year's Line-up

**Judoka** · 03-19-2011, 05:36 PM

Who does everyone think we'll have in the line-up next year? Here's my thoughts:

125: Ryak Finch
133: Ben Cash
141: Max Mayfield
149: Joey Cozart
157: Mike Moreno
165: Andrew Sorenson
174: Chris Spangler
184: Kyven Gadson
197: Jerome Ward
HWT: Kyle Simonson

This assumes that Mayfield can make the cut. If he can't then I don't know who we'll have at 141. Though it would be great if Cozart could make 141 and Weatherman at 149, but I don't see that happening. 133 wil still be a hole, but everywhere else we will look a lot better. Much better dual team and decently better tournament team.

**Cyforce** · 03-19-2011, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

133 wil still be a hole,

any explanation why this wasn't addressed? I know we've had some guys leave for one reason or another but seems like a program of our stature should be able to fill a huge void with a solid recruit when the opportunity arises.

**Judoka** · 03-19-2011, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cyforce

any explanation why this wasn't addressed? I know we've had some guys leave for one reason or another but seems like a program of our stature should be able to fill a huge void with a solid recruit when the opportunity arises.

My guess is we expected Long at 133 so didn't try to recruit anyone to fill it that would be redshirting this year. He wasn't kicked off the team until after the recruiting season was over. After the none of the JuCo's that Jackson brought in to try to patch the lineup this year turned out, I'm guessing he'll be gunshy to bring in a transfer, though I doubt he'll turn one down if somebody catches his eye.

**Cyforce** · 03-19-2011, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

My guess is we expected Long at 133 so didn't try to recruit anyone to fill it that would be redshirting this year. He wasn't kicked off the team until after the recruiting season was over. After the none of the JuCo's that Jackson brought in to try to patch the lineup this year turned out, I'm guessing he'll be gunshy to bring in a transfer, though I doubt he'll turn one down if somebody catches his eye.

Well if that's the case that's the saddest answer of all. Jackson was counting on a guy that he booted to earn his way back on. I don't follow wrestling that closely but I do know when Long's issues occurred and I know we signed wrestlers well after that date. You really are an apologist for this program.

**CYVADER** · 03-19-2011, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cyforce

Well if that's the case that's the saddest answer of all. Jackson was counting on a guy that he booted to earn his way back on. I don't follow wrestling that closely but I do know when Long's issues occurred and I know we signed wrestlers well after that date. You really are an apologist for this program.

jackson and longs teammates were counting on him having his **** together enough not to be kicked off. after that, there was a possibility of him earning his way back, but nothing was guaranteed.

you don't follow wrestling, but assume judoka is an apologist. get a clue.

and long's issues occurred the moment he set foot in ames and didn't stop until he left. kid is a complete knothead.

**ajbjunior** · 03-19-2011, 10:00 PM

KJ did address it and he is bringing in Nik Pena from CA. Not sure if he will redshirt next year or wrestle. They'll have to see how ready he is. Before jumping to conclusion why not try to have all the information first.

**ajbjunior** · 03-19-2011, 10:04 PM

125: Finch
133: Cash/Pena/Jones
141: Goetl/Mayfield
149: Mayfield/Weatherman/Cozart
157: Moreno/Weatherman
165: Sorenson
174: Spangler
184: Gadson/Ward
197: Ward/Gadson
HWT: Simonson/Gibson

**Cyforce** · 03-19-2011, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by ajbjunior

KJ did address it and he is bringing in Nik Pena from CA. Not sure if he will redshirt next year or wrestle. They'll have to see how ready he is. Before jumping to conclusion why not try to have all the information first.

I asked the question in my first post and responded to the answer I got. I don't claim to have the information, the OP did. That's why I said if that's the case.

Thank you for the info on Pena.

**Judoka** · 03-20-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Cyforce

Well if that's the case that's the saddest answer of all. Jackson was counting on a guy that he booted to earn his way back on. I don't follow wrestling that closely but I do know when Long's issues occurred and I know we signed wrestlers well after that date. You really are an apologist for this program.

He was booted after the recruiting season.

**brett108** · 03-20-2011, 09:41 AM

Any reason Goettl won't be at 133? It was the weight he wrestled at the exhibition, and he destroyed Cash in that match. He and Finch would be much better than what we have right now.

**Cyforce** · 03-20-2011, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Judoka

He was booted after the recruiting season.

Logan Molina committed 2 weeks ago.

As for 133, Gooseeman said we have 8 new guys coming in I'm guessing somebody will be their to compete.

**CYVADER** · 03-20-2011, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Cyforce

Logan Molina committed 2 weeks ago.

As for 133, Gooseeman said we have 8 new guys coming in I'm guessing somebody will be their to compete.

he was booted after last years signing period-when we were going for depth guys like jones-not starters.

**Cyforce** · 03-20-2011, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by ISU BET

he was booted after last years signing period-when we were going for depth guys like jones-not starters.

I just read an article dated 12-09-10 on Long's transfer and a link to national signing day 2-02-11. Saying we would every recruit a kid to be a non-starter is just sad. When you have 9.9 schollies to offer everyone that gets money comes in with the expectation they will be a starter at some point.

**CYVADER** · 03-20-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Cyforce

I just read an article dated 12-09-10 on Long's transfer and a link to national signing day 2-02-11. Saying we would every recruit a kid to be a non-starter is just sad. When you have 9.9 schollies to offer everyone that gets money comes in with the expectation they will be a starter at some point.

at some point yes. we threw him to the wolves this year-he shouldn't have been forced to be out there as a true freshman. he should have rs'd, then backed up long for 2 more years, and been ready to start as an rs jr and sr. he was no where close to being a starter this year, and he wasn't expected to be.

and trying to fill a slot in 2 months time is not an easy task. there are only so many quality d1 wrestlers at any weight-my guess is most of the elite were committed.

**ajbjunior** · 03-20-2011, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by brett108

Any reason Goettl won't be at 133? It was the weight he wrestled at the exhibition, and he destroyed Cash in that match. He and Finch would be much better than what we have right now.

Goetl wrestled 141 during the opens this year. Sometimes they wrestle a weight up so it may be a possiblity. We'll find out soon enough.