Cornell Preview, Predictions, and Results

[buf87]

To many times the takedown clinics occur because the other guy isn't wrestling. Peppleman had his head on the mat and elbows in when in the down position to prevent getting scored on.

[Scott34]

To many times the takedown clinics occur because the other guy isn't wrestling. Peppleman had his head on the mat and elbows in when in the down position to prevent getting scored on.

That he was, was very pathetic on Pepplemans behalf.

[buf87]

How many stalling warnings or points were given in Sorenson's match?

[isumellie]

How many stalling warnings or points were given in Sorenson's match?

4


http://www.cyclones.com/pdf8/821101.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=10700

165 pounds: Andrew Sorenson
(ISU) vs. Marshall Peppelman
(COR)
1st Period:
2:36: Takedown Sorenson, 2-0
1:59: Escape Peppelman, 2-1
1:05: Stal l warning Peppelman
0:45: Penalty point Sorenson, 3-1

2nd Period
Sorenson chooses down
1:35: Reversal Sorenson, 5-1
0:17: Stal l ing point Sorenson, 6-1

3rd Period:
Peppelman chooses neutral
1:45: Takedown Sorenson, 8-1
1:44: Escape Peppelman, 8-2
1:41: Stal l ing Point Sorenson, 9-2
1:25: Takedown Sorenson, 11-2
1:11: Escape Peppelman, 11-3
0:56: Takedown Sorenson, 13-3
0:48: Escape Peppelman, 13-4
0:46: Stal l ing point Sorenson, 14-4
0:35: Takedown Sorenson, 16-4
0:31: Escape Peppelman 16-5
0:19: Takedown Sorenson, 18-5
0:12: Escape Peppelman, 18-6
0:03: Takedown Sorenson, 20-6
Riding Time: Sorenson (ISU), 2:30

[buf87]

Thanks, so a guy can stall out and only lose 4 team points. You can not get defaulted out for stalling.

[Judoka]

Thats bs! It shouldnt matter when beat him by 15. Not that the points made a difference in the results. Just really annoys me!

I actually like the rule. The extra point encourages the better wrestler to go for a pin rather than catch and release. A takedown clinic can be awesome to watch, but the ultimate goal of wrestling is a pin.

[Judoka]

Thanks, so a guy can stall out and only lose 4 team points. You can not get defaulted out for stalling.

Are you sure? You can in high school.

[buf87]

I don't mind the intent of the rule, but not penalizing a wrestler for stalling, defeats the objective. You can not get disqualified for stalling, so technically if the dual came down to the last weight and opposing team needs 5 points to win and you're down by a major and haven't given up any back points, you just as well stall your butt off so you don't give up the TF with back points. It's a long shot in happening, but could happen.

If you get TF'd and no back points, and guy gets stalled (5 stall warnings) out the guy should get at least 5 if not 6

[ricochet]

Results:
165: #4 Andrew Sorenson (ISU) tech fall. (4pts) Marshall Peppelman (CU), 21-6* (Cornell, 28-11)

*Sorenson was only awarded four team points because he did not have any nearfall points

I didn't realize this rule!!

We were talking about that on the way out. I knew about the back points rule and was surprised it got put up as 5 points. My theory was that maybe you also got 5 if there were a certain number of stall warnings but I guess they just put up the wrong score.

[goldrush]

Very Nice win for Andrew. Peppelman hasn't progressed too much since high school.

4 point techs have been around for a while. Tyler Graff had a bunch his redshirt freshman year at Wisconsin.

Heres a question if you don't score a takedown, but tech fall someone because of back points should it be 4 or 5? Jake Patacsil teched people without ever taking anyone down

[Scott34]

Goldrush, this is the exact point I was trying to state above. Many times in a tech fall instance most come from back points but not really from a pinning combo. Leg riders do this well cause they can til or turk there opponents. I think its the exact same but just a different style.