Destin McCauley staying at the OTC

**Scott34** · 07-14-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

Originally Posted by Scott34

So you can predict the future? Do you have any clue who we have in the wrestling room? You have no clue. Way to try and be a debbie downer though!

Well, he is the poster who was convinced that Finch and others were transferring after last season. So maybe he forgot he was trolling and thinks that was real?

I thought he was the one but wasnt for sure. Wish they could get the hint and leave. And posters on this site wonder why us wrestling supporters get so upset when people post stuff like this.

**CycloneErik** · 07-14-2012, 05:46 PM

I don't know if it works this way in wrestling, but this kind of looks like the gutpunch to a coach's program that the Wesley Johnson transfer was for mens' basketball. It's tough for any sport to overcome this sort of thing.

**Scott34** · 07-14-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I don't know if it works this way in wrestling, but this kind of looks like the gutpunch to a coach's program that the Wesley Johnson transfer was for mens' basketball. It's tough for any sport to overcome this sort of thing.

I dont think its the same. He was never here, only recruited and had a scholarship. He isnt going to another college either. I dont see it that way at all.

**Scott34** · 07-14-2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I don't know if it works this way in wrestling, but this kind of looks like the gutpunch to a coach's program that the Wesley Johnson transfer was for mens' basketball. It's tough for any sport to overcome this sort of thing.

It does suck but it would of been way worse if he had come here and quit. Atleast we can try to get someone before our times up.

**Judoka** · 07-14-2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I don't know if it works this way in wrestling, but this kind of looks like the gutpunch to a coach's program that the Wesley Johnson transfer was for mens' basketball. It's tough for any sport to overcome this sort of thing.

It's a gutpunch for sure. But the situation isn't very similar. McCauley has been at the OTC the last year, in fact we have him because he decommited from Wisconsin to go to the OTC last year. So he's spent the last year surrounded by people whispering in his ear that he'll be an Olympic champion if only he stays at the OTC. And USA Wrestling has no restrictions on recruiting contacts or what they can give/promise him like college coaches do. He isn't transferring to another program, he is just skipping college wrestling altogether.

And like I said earlier, it's a double blow because he is a full ride kind of guy, which means we tied up a lot of money with him that we could have used recruiting somebody else. And the recruiting year is over, so he kinda gave us the middle finger on the way out in that respect. Wrestling only has 9.9 scholarships to divy up between everyone, so his money could have gotten us multiple good wrestlers into the room that actually wanted to be Cyclones.

**Judoka** · 07-14-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by Scott34

I thought he was the one but wasnt for sure.

I've learned to take a second and look at the "Find more posts by" page real quick before responding to people that seem like trolls in the wrestling threads. It's a really easy way to know how to respond. People who are just coming in to ask questions don't have a post history of ******** on every thread related to wrestling.

**jbhtexas** · 07-14-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

I wish him luck, but I think in the long run he'll find he's made a poor decision. He's putting all his eggs in one basket going for Olympic Gold. One injury or mistake and he loses it all. Plus he didn't even qualify for the trials this year.

Have to agree here. Really risky move on his part, when it seems he has other alternatives that can get him to the same end game...

**Clone83** · 07-14-2012, 07:04 PM

Things aren't looking great without DM, the latest bad news. My hope though is that we can avoid a lot of the negativity. Most know where things stand, including KJ.

And including DM. Who knows, perhaps the uncertainty impacted his decision. Many here probably don't know, but he originally committed to Wisconsin, which experienced an enormous shake up while he was at OTC, so he decommitted from there.

If there is going to be a big meltdown every time ISU doesn't meet or exceed expectations though, there isn't much reason for visiting Cyclone Fanatic, let alone posting. The critics aren't saying more than is already known, and often attack strawmen (like a certain poster), unduly putting others down. The repetition is as tiresome as it is predictable. I hope for more, but I hope we might see improvement on the part of individual wrestlers, both at the beginning and as the season progresses. It isn't their fault things stand where they are as a team, which everyone expects more of. It is also possible that some will truly exceed expectations, as some are knocking on the door of AA, and others have great potential but have been injured and not on the mat. Others might not ever AA, but they are busting their arse and pick up important wins along the way, both individually and for the team.

It is funny, not haha funny, how on meet threads, it sometimes isn't clear anyone else is even following. Then if the team doesn't meet expectations, CF is full of wrestling experts.

That relates in part to ISU's tradition, but I hope more start following what is going on on the mat. There are a number of wrestlers who should have decent seasons. And that is the only way the team as a whole will do well.

**cyclone1306** · 07-14-2012, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

Well, he is the poster who was convinced that Finch and others were transferring after last season. So maybe he forgot he was trolling and thinks that was real?

He doesn't get the scoop that no one else gets. Several of us knew this information well before he posts it. Most of us don't bother to post it out of respect. The second he hears it he runs to his computer to stir the pot because he wasn't granted an interview and is bitter.

Its been known for quite some time that DM might not be coming to Ames. Young kids get comfortable somewhere and dont want to leave. Its too bad that we had scholarship money set aside for him and we may have lost out on some recruits that we may have been able to use that money for. Was DM worth taking a chance on.. absolutely. However it hurt us in recruiting other individuals. So in that regards DM didn't do KJ any favors.

**Scott34** · 07-14-2012, 07:46 PM

The last 2 posts are very well stated. Myself, as well as others that follow the program very close love the program and will support it no matter what. I just wish that more would take the time to think about the stuff they post. I think most of us know that KJ may be on the hotseat, then again we also know what ths situation was that KJ was left with. KJ needs time as well as any new coach does. Wrestling is not like basketball or football, you dont have a team to hide behind. Hopefully we have a good class this year that can produce some results and we can get back to building a great program here at ISU.

**psychlone99** · 07-14-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Clone83

Things aren't looking great without DM, the latest bad news. My hope though is that we can avoid a lot of the negativity. Most know where things stand, including KJ.

And including DM. Who knows, perhaps the uncertainty impacted his decision. Many here probably don't know, but he originally committed to Wisconsin, which experienced an enormous shake up while he was at OTC, so he decommitted from there.

Are you implying that the growing negativity surrounding the program, generated by some segment of the fanbase, at least partially impacted McCauley's decision to bail on ISU? If so, this signals a new level of desperation among those looking to prop up KJ. I've seen this movie before. When fans start blaming other fans when misfortune comes to a program, it typically means they're running out of legitimate ways to explain away yet another piece of bad news.

**Judoka** · 07-14-2012, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by psychlone99

Are you implying that the growing negativity surrounding the program, generated by some segment of the fanbase, at least partially impacted McCauley's decision to bail on ISU? If so, this signals a new level of desperation among those looking to prop up KJ. I've seen this movie before. When fans start blaming other fans when misfortune comes to a program, it typically means they're running out of legitimate ways to explain away yet another piece of bad news.

Huh? What are you talking about. It's no secret that Jackson is on the hot seat this year. Clone83 was referring to the posters that pile into wrestling threads just to ***** rather than talk about the program. Two separate paragraphs to talk about two seperate things.

**NEICyFan** · 07-14-2012, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

Well, he is the poster who was convinced that Finch and others were transferring after last season. So maybe he forgot he was trolling and thinks that was real?

I was obviously not "convinced." If I was convinced I wouldn't have had to come here and ask whether it was true or if anyone else had heard it.

**psychlone99** · 07-14-2012, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

Huh? What are you talking about. It's no secret that Jackson is on the hot seat this year. Clone83 was referring to the posters that pile into wrestling threads just to ***** rather than talk about the program. Two separate paragraphs to talk about two seperate things.

A couple of things... I see a fairly obvious plea in there to remain calm, even in the wake of such devastating news. Also, since when did it become necessary to regulate the emotions of a fanbase? It's been said before, fan is short for "fanatic". Which means that when a program you take take pride in is in the crapper, it's gonna rub you wrong. Thus, "b****ing" and "talking about the program" are often one and the same during times like these. And the sooner the apologists can figure this out, the easier their lives will be between now and when the program eventually returns to respectability.