Who is better? Gable or Sanderson

**troyrew** · 12-09-2007, 05:14 PM

Gable was a better freestyle wrestler dont forget sanderson almost lost to fullhart he did once but won 2 out of 3 great matches.

He also gave points up in the olympics

**Benny34** · 12-09-2007, 06:41 PM

Athletes today are alot bigger faster and stronger than they were back then...plus Cael has something called class.

**TedKumsher** · 12-10-2007, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonesrule91

Sanderson easily because he finished the job. Also, Cael has more class in the fungus underneath his big toenail then Gable. Sure, Gable was a Cyclone, but he has obviously been around the Dbag honebees because of him giving Sanderson the royal F-You salute at the meet in Sewer City last year(I seen it on TV) so he has obvious no class and Sanderson remains calm and humble and is a great representative of the Cyclone community...

For the record, I know lots of old guys who point with their middle finger. Never understood why--but that's what it looked like to me . . .

**Gordyo5** · 12-10-2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonesrule91

Sanderson easily because he finished the job. Also, Cael has more class in the fungus underneath his big toenail then Gable. Sure, Gable was a Cyclone, but he has obviously been around the Dbag honebees because of him giving Sanderson the royal F-You salute at the meet in Sewer City last year(I seen it on TV) so he has obvious no class and Sanderson remains calm and humble and is a great representative of the Cyclone community...

Sewer City? that's a new one, does that mean we live in the state Sewer? I have heard Sioux City called that but never Iowa City, probably because it makes no sense. Second, you SAW it on TV.

**NIowaClone** · 12-10-2007, 01:52 PM

I don't know how good Gable was as a wrestler compared to Sanderson from era to era, but with what Cael has done for Iowa State and giving back puts him above Gable easily. Go Cael and keep the Cyclone wrestling tradition alive and well.

**Gordyo5** · 12-10-2007, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by NIowaClone

I don't know how good Gable was as a wrestler compared to Sanderson from era to era, but with what Cael has done for Iowa State and giving back puts him above Gable easily. Go Cael and keep the Cyclone wrestling tradition alive and well.

I suppose that makes him the best wrestler for Iowa State, which I would agree. Overall, though you have to look at what Gable did for Iowa, which is far more than Sanderson has done yet. Key would being YET.

**tobyaclone** · 12-10-2007, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Benny34

Athletes today are alot bigger faster and stronger than they were back then...plus Cael has something called class.

Agree. Yesterday I witnessed Gable's classlessness. He thinks everyone should know him. He doesn't have to give his name to the official letting people into the media area. And when this young man excuses himself for not recognizing him, Gable feeds him ****, then jests with him again when he leaves, rubbing it in that he's a Hawk and they kicked our *** and making snide comments about how the young man didn't know who he was.

He has no class, no manners. A complete jerk. That completely negates what he ever did on the mat.

**everyyard** · 12-10-2007, 03:07 PM

Easy answer to who is better??? Who is still a Cyclone. That is the only thing I need to look at to figure this one out.

**dustinal** · 12-10-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by tobyaclone

Agree. Yesterday I witnessed Gable's classlessness. He thinks everyone should know him. He doesn't have to give his name to the official letting people into the media area. And when this young man excuses himself for not recognizing him, Gable feeds him ****, then jests with him again when he leaves, rubbing it in that he's a Hawk and they kicked our *** and making snide comments about how the young man didn't know who he was.

He has no class, no manners. A complete jerk. That completely negates what he ever did on the mat.

I think of lot of wrestlers and wrestling coaches are like that. I've met Gable and he seems like a nice enough guy--for a wrestler. Anytime I meet a wrestler I'm afraid they're going to eat me.

His mind is always on the sport and nothing else. That's usually the case for the best coaches in any sport. And another thing about wrestlers is they don't give a **** what anybody else thinks about them. So if he was acting like a jerk, I'm sure he didn't feel like it was his problem.

**mojo** · 12-10-2007, 03:35 PM

I'm just curious how this question can even be asked really, Aside from the fact that Cael is not only better on paper, Gable is a turncoat by coaching at Iowa.

**Cyclone62** · 12-10-2007, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by dustinal

I think of lot of wrestlers and wrestling coaches are like that. I've met Gable and he seems like a nice enough guy--for a wrestler. Anytime I meet a wrestler I'm afraid they're going to eat me.

His mind is always on the sport and nothing else. That's usually the case for the best coaches in any sport. And another thing about wrestlers is they don't give a **** what anybody else thinks about them. So if he was acting like a jerk, I'm sure he didn't feel like it was his problem.

There's a difference between the wrestling attitude, generally the "I'm a bad-*** who takes no prisoners", and Gable's "I'm an a-hole. Love me" attitude.

**CYVADER** · 12-10-2007, 03:47 PM

i found it disturbing during the match when he was"coaching" the iowa wrestlers and kept referring to iowa as "we" also i think i heard another announcer say that he was thrilled with the fact that iowa was winning the team score at one point during the match. how's that for unbiased journalism!

**dustinal** · 12-10-2007, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone62

There's a difference between the wrestling attitude, generally the "I'm a bad-*** who takes no prisoners", and Gable's "I'm an a-hole. Love me" attitude.

Fair enough. I guess I just didn't see the "I'm an a-hole. Love me" attitude in Gable when I met him. But if others have seen him act like a jerk, then I guess that's a valid point. But if what was said earlier in this thread about Gable not being offered a good job at ISU is true, then I can't necessarily say I'd blame him for being a little bit of a jerk when he comes back here.

**Cyclone62** · 12-11-2007, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by dustinal

Fair enough. I guess I just didn't see the "I'm an a-hole. Love me" attitude in Gable when I met him. But if others have seen him act like a jerk, then I guess that's a valid point. But if what was said earlier in this thread about Gable not being offered a good job at ISU is true, then I can't necessarily say I'd blame him for being a little bit of a jerk when he comes back here.

Most people that know about that situation know that's why he left ISU. However, he could have gone to any other school, and the hatred wouldn't run nearly as deep as it does because he fled to Iowa and became a legend over yonder. And as was said earlier, ISU couldn't really strong-arm Nichols out of the HC position because of his tenure to make room for Gable. It still doesn't change my opinion that Gable's a nancy.

And by gable's attitude ("I'm an a-hole") it stems from him believing that everyone should respect him, regardless of who he's stepped on, and how classless he acts.

**kberyldial** · 12-16-2007, 12:12 AM

This thread should be deleted. Perhaps 2 of the best wrestlers ever, in different weights, in different eras. Both at Iowa State. The more important question at this moment is whether or not Cael is the coach that Gable was. That will be Cael's ultimate legacy. If he is able to do for Iowa State as a coach what Gable did as a coach then we have something. The problem we have is that Brands stands in the way and he is up for the challenge. Should be an interesting next 10-20 years.