Friday Morning Session

jahfg · 03-21-2008, 12:27 PM

It is easier said than done, folks. The reason Iowa is so aggressive is because they are the better wrestlers. Our guys have been the lower seed and can't afford mistakes. If you get too agressive against the big boys, they will eat your lunch. Iowa is a VERY good team this year. I hope you guys don't get too down on ISU because we still have a great opportunity to have a good tourney

jahfg · 03-21-2008, 12:28 PM

If you haven't noticed, that is the way Varner always wrestles. It gives him the best opportunity to win. So if you want a national champion, I would say deal with it. Winning is better than losing, period.

cloneu · 03-21-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by isufbcurt

It pains me to no end to say this but I like how Iowa wrestles, they are actually AGGRESSIVE. We seem passive and seem to wait for openings, personally I hate that style. I say be aggressive and go make your points.

Don't worry your not the only one.

Originally Posted by SouthernHawk

I'm actually interested in seeing where CMU is falling in the standings. They're a pretty cool story.

I think CMU is falling today. They have 1 guy as of now in the Semi's. But they may get 2 more and that will help a lot. They have 4 guys currently wrestling on the back side.

ripvdub · 03-21-2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Indyclone

I think Iowa is now 5 for 5 in the quarters and 6 for 6 on the day and last I heard they have opened up a 20 point lead. This thing is all but over. This next year is going to be hard hearing all the crap coming out of EIU.

All the Brands being a freaking/bad*** coach will annoy the crap outta me. He was able to combine the best players on two good wrestling programs(1 of them great) onto one team. Of course theyll win.

CrossCyed · 03-21-2008, 12:36 PM

Bert looking to pull another big upset.

JonDMiller · 03-21-2008, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

All the Brands being a freaking/bad*** coach will annoy the crap outta me. He was able to combine the best players on two good wrestling programs(1 of them great) onto one team. Of course theyll win.

Why do you think people come to ISU to wrestle? To wrestle for a great program, and one of the best amateur wrestlers in history in Cael Sanderson.

Why in the world would Leclere, Borschell and Slaton leave the state of Iowa to go to VT? Not because of their tradition, because of Tom Brands. That's why Metcalf went there, too. That's why they followed him to Iowa. They would have followed him to Ohio State, or anywhere.

This whining about the VT transfer thing is getting old. They are there to wrestle for Brands, who happens to be one of the best amateur wrestlers of all time, as well. It's really starting to sound like sour grapes.

You don't need to go there. You have a great program with a great future.

ianoconnor · 03-21-2008, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by CrossCyed

Bert looking to pull another big upset.

Score? .

JonDMiller · 03-21-2008, 12:39 PM

Bert tied with Herbst 4-4, but Herbst has a ride going late.....Bert loses a tough one. Dang it. I really like that kid.

isuno1fan · 03-21-2008, 12:40 PM

Did Reader wrestle yet? I saw Perry got a pin...what about Reader?

ripvdub · 03-21-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by JonDMiller

Why do you think people come to ISU to wrestle? To wrestle for a great program, and one of the best amateur wrestlers in history in Cael Sanderson.

Why in the world would Leclere, Borschell and Slaton leave the state of Iowa to go to VT? Not because of their tradition, because of Tom Brands. That's why Metcalf went there, too. That's why they followed him to Iowa. They would have followed him to Ohio State, or anywhere.

This whining about the VT transfer thing is getting old. They are there to wrestle for Brands, who happens to be one of the best amateur wrestlers of all time, as well. It's really starting to sound like sour grapes.

You don't need to go there. You have a great program with a great future.

I didnt mean to come off as saying Brands is a bad coach, he's shown he's good.

What i meant was how some Iowa wrestling fans will be talking about how ferocious/intense/an animal he is on the side of the mat. Theyll think Hawkeye wrestling is back simply because of that. Being a psycho on the side of the mat doesnt win matches. Its whats done in practice.

JonDMiller · 03-21-2008, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

What i meant was how some Iowa wrestling fans will be talking about how ferocious/intense/an animal he is on the side of the mat. Theyll think Hawkeye wrestling is back simply because of that. Being a psycho on the side of the mat doesnt win matches. Its whats done in practice.

The truth of the matter is that this program is wrestling in a totally different fashion than it did during the Zalesky era. It's a return to that old ferocious and attacking style they had under Gable. And there is one reason for that; Tom Brands. And the kids he recruits have a penchant to want to wrestle that way.

So while I understand that you don't like the hyperbole, it's accurate. Brands is as psycho in practice and on the side of the mat. And you can see it in his wrestlers.

Look at Phil Keddy...he might be the move improved wrestler in the nation...and it's clearly due to the Brands influence.

mjones34 · 03-21-2008, 12:48 PM

The biggest reason I don't want Iowa to win is I can't stand to watching Brands gloat and brag all over the place.

kccyclone · 03-21-2008, 12:57 PM

This has been one rough session for us. Only sending one on in the Championship Bracket was not what I expected. Hopefully we can rebound on the consolation side. No shot for first, but we can still place well and hopefully have six All-Americans.

isufbcurt · 03-21-2008, 12:58 PM

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This whining about the VT transfer thing is getting old. They are there to wrestle for Brands, who happens to be one of the best amateur wrestlers of all time, as well. It's really starting to sound like sour grapes.
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Sour grapes huh. Actually its the Iowa fans who have sour grapes regarding what VT did by not releasing them and making them sit out a year. I know kids go to certain school because of coaches, but when the kid signs the letter of intent it is a binding contract with the University and not the coach. So if you want to follow a coach when he leaves then you pay the price for breaking the signed contract.

cloneu · 03-21-2008, 01:01 PM

For how bad this round looked the only match that I was truly disappointed in the outcome was Fanthorpe's match. Really like the effort that Bert has given all tournament.