Cael is going to make changes

**2forISU** · 01-13-2009, 08:53 AM

I have faith this team will put one hell of a run together in St. Louis and you will see a National Championship banner in Hilton.

If they aren't motivated now...when will they be?

**jumbopackage** · 01-13-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bubbahotep

I'd rather have him learn how to be a fantastic coach at Iowa State than Iowa. He has the program on the verge of being at the top. Sometimes it takes a few tweaks here or there to make the difference. At least he isn't to stubborn to admit his methods aren't the right way for everybody. I see this as the turning point that will take us to the peak of wrestling.

That's a reactionary step, IMO. You hire a guy because he's the best guy for the job, not because in the past someone who might have been a great coach at ISU went somewhere else. Cael could be the best guy for the job, but Dan Gable going to Iowa is no reason to hire someone at ISU, IMO.

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

ISU has won back-to-back Big 12 titles. Prior to Cael, when was the last time ISU won a conference wrestling title? Not only was ISU not winning conference titles, many times they weren't even close. Not quite sure how you make him out to be "not much worse" than BD...

It would appear to me that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State both being not as good don't hurt things. The last two years were the first two years since the Big XII conference was formed that neither Oklahoma or Oklahoma State were in the top two.

I'll be the first to admit that I know crap all about wrestling, but it's apparent that there's a bit of the "Michael Jordan" syndrome going on here.

**sclotz** · 01-13-2009, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by CyBobby

It doesnt make any difference who coaches the isu wrestling team, we will always play 2nd fiddle to the u of i...That was decided when isu let dan gable go to iowa city!!!!

What is this crap?

**keepngoal** · 01-13-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by CyBobby

It doesnt make any difference who coaches the isu wrestling team, we will always play 2nd fiddle to the u of i...That was decided when isu let dan gable go to iowa city!!!!

great attitude.. let's give up cause we can't win.

-keep

**Bubbahotep** · 01-13-2009, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by jumbopackage

That's a reactionary step, IMO. You hire a guy because he's the best guy for the job, not because in the past someone who might have been a great coach at ISU went somewhere else. Cael could be the best guy for the job, but Dan Gable going to Iowa is no reason to hire someone at ISU, IMO.

Gable wasn't an instant sucess at Iowa either. How bad has it got that now we are complaining about the coach in the one sport we have been consistantly good at? We haven't won an NCAA title in 21 years, we are so close, and you are complaining now?

**keepngoal** · 01-13-2009, 09:03 AM

I am all in for Cael. He is getting it done.. and will get it done with banners up in Hilton.

-keep

**1100011CS** · 01-13-2009, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Bubbahotep

Gable wasn't an instant sucess at Iowa either. How bad has it got that now we are complaining about the coach in the one sport we have been consistantly good at? We haven't won an NCAA title in 21 years, we are so close, and you are complaining now?

The only ones complaining are the ones that know nothing about wrestling.

**Bubbahotep** · 01-13-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by 1100011CS

The only ones complaining are the ones that know nothing about wrestling.

This is true, those in the know, know we have a coach who will eventually out gable gable

**twistedredbird** · 01-13-2009, 09:21 AM

Doesn't surprise me that a Cael, someone who was constantly pushing himself to be the best wrestler he could be, is pushing himself to be the best coach he can be.

The one wrestler I was surprised to see wrestle poorly was Cyler. Talk about a tough shadow to be in.

**1100011CS** · 01-13-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by twistedredbird

Doesn't surprise me that a Cael, someone who was constantly pushing himself to be the best wrestler he could be, is pushing himself to be the best coach he can be.

The one wrestler I was surprised to see wrestle poorly was Cyler. Talk about a tough shadow to be in.

I'm wondering if he was sick or something. Usually he's the most aggressive on the team IMO.

**CloneFan96** · 01-13-2009, 09:33 AM

He was still aggressive but they kept countering him perfectly. He has some things to work on. I think that's the fight Cael was talking about. They need to finish their shots and not do them half-heartedly.

**MilehighClone** · 01-13-2009, 09:45 AM

The team just needs a little more "Chuck Jean" in them. It's coming. I have all the faith in the world in Cael.

**1100011CS** · 01-13-2009, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by CloneFan96

He was still aggressive but they kept countering him perfectly. He has some things to work on. I think that's the fight Cael was talking about. They need to finish their shots and not do them half-heartedly.

I didn't get to see any of the matches so just assumed. Never do that.

**Clonehomer** · 01-13-2009, 11:07 AM

Watching the Cornell match it was obvious form the start that they were the aggressor. Clark and Fanthorpe came out like they wanted to tie it up and the Cornell wrestlers came out to score points. I just wonder if this is also to the lightweight guys to get their act together. They need to come out and set the tone in dual meets.

**iowaboy** · 01-13-2009, 12:04 PM

Tom Peckham!!! I know him well and graduated with Gable (HS)! I could tell you some stories about Peckham for sure. Was once noted as the toughest man alive! Came in second or third in Nationals "with a cracked shinbone!"