ISU Athletics /Wrestling

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Originally Posted by 2forISU

They still find a way to get to a big bowl and win. ISU can play an easy schedule and we still can't find a way to win 1 game in the conf.

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Solution.... Change your name to 2forIowa... Then cheer for the Hawks??? Sounds like an easy way to cheer for someone who always gets to a big bowl and wins.. Which I don't agree they do, but to each there own.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

We had a breakdown on the defensive end. I think the breakdown was our defense.
Nobody would have gone with that defense.

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And when the Hawks lost all their running backs that wasn't a breakdown in the backfield? They still found a way to go to a bowl.

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Originally Posted by 2forISU

And when the Hawks lost all their running backs that wasn't a breakdown in the backfield? They still found a way to go to a bowl.

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Maybe our new OL coach will take care of that problem.

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Originally Posted by 2forISU

I posted this in another thread:

How do you motivate these kids to wrestle? They wrestle so conservative and show no emotion. If losing and getting embarrassed doesn't motivate you, I question what kind of competitor you are. Nothing in life is just handed to you…you got to fight for championships and ISU doesn’t have that mentality.
Very disappointed…It seems like ISU athletics overall is content with sub par performances at best. Being the laughing stock of sports in the state doesn’t settle well with me.

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I guess that I just didn't see it that way at all at the end of this season. Top to bottom, our lineup was fired up for the last three dual meets, Big 12s, and the NCAAs. Z's match with Erekson this morning, and Reader's match last night are the only two where I thought it was piddled.

We scored 84 points in 09 and 72 points in 08. We finished 6th last year and 3rd this year. I know everyone thought we would win, well Cyclone fans anyway, but we finished where the people in the know picked us. It appears on paper the guys wrestled better than last year. If you take off your cardinal and gold glasses and look at it from the outside the guys improved year over year but not enough to get the NC.

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Originally Posted by 2forISU

If I hear someone say time will take of everything is crazy. Tell that to my old man who hasn't seen to many great moments in ISU history over the last 55 years. Hasn't the fans of ISU waited long enough?

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My vote for:...GREATEST POST EVER!!!!!!!

Say hello to your dad for me...Like him I'm a long time suffering fan!!!!

The wrestling singlets with the "I-State" logo look trendy and cheap. Go back to the simple block gold "I" that we wore during the glory days. It was classy and simple, and recognizable around the nation.
Rebranding is fine for football and basketball, but not wrestling...

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Originally Posted by Tornado man

The wrestling singlets with the "I-State" logo look trendy and cheap. Go back to the simple block gold "I" that we wore during the glory days. It was classy and simple, and recognizable around the nation.
Rebranding is fine for football and basketball, but not wrestling...

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That will solve all of our problems.

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Originally Posted by 2forISU

I posted this in another thread:

How do you motivate these kids to wrestle? They wrestle so conservative and show no emotion. If losing and getting embarrassed doesn't motivate you, I question what kind of competitor you are. Nothing in life is just handed to you…you got to fight for championships and ISU doesn’t have that mentality.
Very disappointed…It seems like ISU athletics overall is content with sub par performances at best. Being the laughing stock of sports in the state doesn’t settle well with me.

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Have you ever set foot on a wrestling mat? trust me just because you show emotion dosnt mean its going to help you out. I love our wrestlers style on the mat, trust me ive seen what the BRANDS style of wrestling does to young men, be thankful for the wrestling program we have, many others would love to have what we have.

How short sighted do you have to be to pick a perfomance where our team places 3rd nationally with the youth we have, to call out the program and say we are settling for sub par performance and are a laughing stock.

I even hate it when people talk that way about the football program but don't get this upset. But picking a wrestling season where we had to work very hard to get our ducks close to in a row and calling it a laughingstock really is an immature view.

I would say your comment was making you a laughingstock if it weren't so sad a reflection on your respect for what they worked to acheive this year. Youth, Injury and the stunning move against Z were all difficult to swallow, but to look at it as a failure is just plain wrong.

In my opinion, like anything else, experience helps. Cael was hired right out of college, a risky move. When Cael was hired the Hawkeyes knew what a great hire it was and they brought in Brands to counter. Brands had two years experience at Virginia Tech already. Cael is a top notch wrestler and coach and each additional year of experience will put us in a position to win
championships. Shoot, we were in it this year. Cyclone wrestling is in great hands.

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Originally Posted by sclotz

In my opinion, like anything else, experience helps. Cael was hired right out of college, a risky move. When Cael was hired the Hawkeyes knew what a great hire it was and they brought in Brands to counter. Brands had two years experience at Virginia Tech already. Cael is a top notch wrestler and coach and each additional year of experience will put us in a position to win
championships. Shoot, we were in it this year. Cyclone wrestling is in great hands.

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Good points.

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Originally Posted by mikeiastat

How short sighted do you have to be to pick a perfomance where our team places 3rd nationally with the youth we have, to call out the program and say we are settling for sub par performance and are a laughing stock.

I even hate it when people talk that way about the football program but don't get this upset. But picking a wrestling season where we had to work very hard to get our ducks close to in a row and calling it a laughingstock really is an immature view.

I would say your comment was making you a laughingstock if it weren't so sad a reflection on your respect for what they worked to acheive this year. Youth, Injury and the stunning move against Z were all difficult to swallow, but to look at it as a failure is just plain wrong.

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Wrestling is not a failure. Please point out where I say that. I just question ISU atheltics and getting over the hump. I just think attitude plays a role in this.

Right now the team is very much the reflection of it's coach. Cael has always been a guy of little emotion. It seems to work very well for him. I have heard him say that it is not best for everyone. I think he has a good grasp on his own limits as a coach and has started to make adjustments, as others in this thread have pointed out. We should all be proud of the program and get ready for a great year next year!

Queso is literally using every single Wrestling related message board on the internet to continue his personal crusade against Jackson. He's been doing it for several years now. It is tiring and strange. Every single chat during Midlands/Nationals/other big events even gets hijacked to be all about Jackson. The guy has some serious issues.