ISU contacted Brands

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Originally Posted by isufbcurt

AMEN, in wrestling you need a bada@@, A$$kicking mentality, obviously Brands and his wrestlers have that. ISU needs that!!!

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As Coach Rob Koll said, "If I pulled the things they do at Iowa here at Cornell, they'd have me fired."

Maybe I missed something, but why not Rob Koll for coach. I know he pulled out of Penn St job, but ISU is different.

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Originally Posted by everyyard

And that is why Iowa State does the honor before victory thing VERY well. Actually we do the honor no victory thing well. Enough of it. Lets have victory. We are such a PG university. Time to get R if not XXX.

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Your post got me singing:

"I used to be such a sweet, sweet thing
Until they got a hold of me
I opened doors for little old ladies
I helped the blind to see
I got no friends 'cause they read the papers
They can't be seen with me and I'm getting shot down
And I'm feeling mean
No more Mister Nice Guy
No more Mister Clean
No more Mister Nice Guy"
-- Alice Cooper

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Originally Posted by Tornado man

As Coach Rob Koll said, "If I pulled the things they do at Iowa here at Cornell, they'd have me fired."

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Despite my Alice Cooper post, I am in complete agreement with you. Nice guys don't always have to finish last.

Look at it this way, we hire Brands and the anthropology department can study him to learn more about cro-magnon man. Two Birds.

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Originally Posted by 2forISU

JP will land the best coach for the program.

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Yeah, his record speaks for itself. WTF?

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Originally Posted by everyyard

And that is why Iowa State does the honor before victory thing VERY well. Actually we do the honor no victory thing well. Enough of it. Lets have victory. We are such a PG university. Time to get R if not XXX.

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Hell, I'd settle for PG-13 at this point. Enough with the patty-cake! Lets grow a pair and actually WIN at something!

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Originally Posted by WLCY

Maybe I missed something, but why not Rob Koll for coach. I know he pulled out of Penn St job, but ISU is different.

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Coach Koll has not even been talked to by OUR AD and I don't know why.

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Originally Posted by Knownothing

That is wimpy. Family members compete with each other in every sport. The Bowdon bowl comes to mind. That is father vs. Son. There are many others. Richard Patino is now an assistant coach at Florida and will eventually square up with his old man.
It's basically a few times a year. I would compete against my brother. It's actually fun.

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Competing = fun
Recruiting against each other? Not so much

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Originally Posted by ISU_REV

Coach Koll has not even been talked to by OUR AD and I don't know why.

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You sure?

I like how everyone is now concerned with our reputation. Do you mean the rep of getting last place in the big 12 at the big sports. If that is the reputation you mean then yeah I am concerned. The rep of crazy wrestling coach with a National Title does not concern me to much.
Pat Summit, Bob Knight, and Eddie Sutton were all considered crazy until they won National Titles. Bob Knight is still crazy but people respect him.

I guess I have no idea what Brands has done as a coach or his athletes have done that makes everyone speak of him in this way. His athletes do well in the classroom, graduate and are (generally) well behaved off the mat.

So he gets excited during matches and rides officials. All coaches ride officials. Some are just less demonstrative than others. When Larry Eustachy used to freak out on officials I didn't see any ISU fans being critical.

What Metcalf did was dead wrong, of course, but I'm not sure that makes him some sort of renegade coach.

it's a no lose situation to hire him. if he wins a nc-obviously that is a good thing.

if he sucks it up-we get to blame a stupid hawkeye

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Originally Posted by Cyrocks

Despite my Alice Cooper post, I am in complete agreement with you. Nice guys don't always have to finish last.

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That is right, they are capable of getting third.

I still think Koll would be great. Never was on board with Brands or
Gable.