Take note Matt and Ken

**psychlone99** · 09-28-2009, 08:51 AM

You guys probably don't remember since you go on so many unrestrained and ill-informed tirades that they get lost in the shuffle, but you hung up on me when I tried to call in and insist that Cael's departure had nothing to do with Pollard. Cael had already addressed that theory on a few occasions, and he does so again in today's piece.

-- And for the conspiracy theorists out there, he also takes issue with the inference that there was some sort of conflict with Cyclones athletic director Jamie Pollard."That's not true at all. I like Jamie," Sanderson says. "He was supportive of the program. I mean, that's real simple. It has nothing to do with Jamie Pollard. That's not why (I left)." --

...Not that it matters, because you'll simply insist that Cael is withholding the truth. That makes the story much more sexy in your eyes, and allows you to disparage individuals who are entirely undeserving.

Keeler: Former Cyclone coach Sanderson tries to clear the air | DesMoinesRegister.com | The Des Moines Register

**d4nim4l** · 09-28-2009, 09:04 AM

I said it from the beginning but Pollard is not stupid. He would not alienate one of the better athletic department programs out of some displeasure with Cael. Keep in mind he elevated Cael to the position so we would not lose him to Iowa or any other rival like we did with Gable long, long ago.

Also, this fits Cael's habits perfectly. The guy is a competitor and always looks for a new challenge. You will have a challenge anywhere you go but I think he really saw the opportunity to go to Penn State and make something "his". Before it's all said and done he could have as good of a coaching record as Gable if he catches lightning in a bottle and that has nothing to do with any feelings towards Pollard.

**dustinal** · 09-28-2009, 09:09 AM

This thread ought to have a different title, because it really should be about more than validating one's self with two radio talk show hosts.

**2forISU** · 09-28-2009, 09:10 AM

Is the wrestling program getting any needed renovations to it's facilities?

**psychlone99** · 09-28-2009, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by dustinal

This thread ought to have a different title, because it really should be about more than validating one's self with two radio talk show hosts.

You can start your own thread.

I didn't appreciate being hung up on when I had an entirely valid point to make. These guys just like to sensationalize every piece of news, so they had no time for a caller that wasn't going to buy into their bogus story- a story with no facts to back it up, and a story that could be damaging to an individual's professional credibility.

It was a BS move, and I'm calling them on it.

**wesley_w** · 09-28-2009, 09:33 AM

This summer, I ran into Cody at the rec center during wrestling camp. We were talking about the move to Penn State and he said it was a very tough decision to make for Cael. Nothing to do with Jamie Pollard, by the way.

Personally, I was stunned when Cael left because of all the things he meant to this university and the kind of man he is. I had thought he would be here for life. But, after talking to Cody, I felt a lot better about the whole thing. I will still miss Cael when the season gets here but I'm all-in with KJ!!!

**Miller** · 09-28-2009, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by psychlone99

You can start your own thread.

I didn't appreciate being hung up on when I had an entirely valid point to make. These guys just like to sensationalize every piece of news, so they had no time for a caller that wasn't going to buy into their bogus story- a story with no facts to back it up, and a story that could be damaging to an individual's professional credibility.

It was a BS move, and I'm calling them on it.

Actually I hung up on you, if it was you, when you accussed me of getting all of my show material from message boards.
If you want to believe what was written in the paper that's fine but come on what did you expect him to say.
Bottom line the most decorated athlete ISU has ever had who then went on to coach at the school he worked his you know what off at somehow decided to walk away.
He bled cardinal and gold and somehow right under his bosses nose he just up and left. Right!

**Bobber** · 09-28-2009, 09:50 AM

I like Ceals' replacement.

A lot more fire in the belly...

Caels gone, so why beat a dead horse on this issue?

**mj4cy** · 09-28-2009, 09:54 AM

Don't take it personal. I don't think Matt or Ken thought 5 seconds beyond your call no offense.

**michaelrr1** · 09-28-2009, 09:57 AM

Instead of whining about a radio show host hanging up on you, why don't you pay more attention to the ISU 'fans' who called Cael a traitor when he left? I think that made his life more difficult than you getting hung up on.

**DaddyMac** · 09-28-2009, 10:03 AM

They have an axe to grind with JP. Have for quite some time. Kenny's post above only reinforces this, IMO.

I don't get it, and personally don't like it. It's also why I don't give them much credibility on such subjects.

Just ignore it. The tuner is right there, close to the volume. I use it often.

**psychlone99** · 09-28-2009, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Miller

Actually I hung up on you, if it was you, when you accussed me of getting all of my show material from message boards.
If you want to believe what was written in the paper that's fine but come on what did you expect him to say.
Bottom line the most decorated athlete ISU has ever had who then went on to coach at the school he worked his you know what off at somehow decided to walk away.
He bled cardinal and gold and somehow right under his bosses nose he just up and left. Right!

Wrong guy, Ken. I simply mentioned that it had nothing to do with Pollard, and started to reference all of the interviews where Cael had said as much, then the shouting started and I was hung up on. You archive your shows, don't you? If I can figure out the date, we can all listen to the call and the ranting that came before and after.

Your "bottom line" doesn't make it okay to attack someone's professional credibility with no basis for doing so. Also, I'm not sure how you can insist that Cael bled cardinal and gold given what we actually know. Cael has said that he went to PSU because it was a better long-term opportunity. That doesn't tell me he bleeds cardinal and gold. That tells me he's looking for the greatest abundance of resources that he can to aid him in winning, and pre-existing loyalties are no better than second on his list of priorities.

**psychlone99** · 09-28-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by michaelrr1

Instead of whining about a radio show host hanging up on you, why don't you pay more attention to the ISU 'fans' who called Cael a traitor when he left? I think that made his life more difficult than you getting hung up on.

Because those jagoff "fans" are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Matt and Ken have a radio show that is broadcast in the state's largest metro area. If they're going to attack our athletic director with no basis for doing so, I'm going to call them on it. I tried to call into their show and do it in a civilized manner, but I wasn't allowed to.

Thank you for telling me what I should and should not pay attention to, by the way.

**ISUFan22** · 09-28-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by psychlone99

jagoff

Wait...when was this? I've always wanted to watch hours and hours of back-to-back JAG.

**JJ4ISU** · 09-28-2009, 10:17 AM

Cael leaving just showed me he was not confident enough in his coaching ability to win at Iowa State, where there is pressure to win and Iowa next door. At PSU, he feels like he can get better talent and win, despite the fact he's probably not a top 10 coach...

From a tactical standpoint, I hated how our wrestlers approached matches. So many times we had the better wrestler and our guys just barely hung on to win or blew it because we were too conservative. I am looking forward to a new appraoch with Kevin Jackson.