So what happens to ISU Wrestling

**2forISU** · 06-10-2010, 02:51 PM

Even if we stay in the big 12 there will be no teams...NU gone and Okie State gone.
MWC= No Wrestling.

All the wrestling is in the big 10...and couple teams in the PAC10.

**CycloneWanderer** · 06-10-2010, 02:52 PM

YOu need to continue reading the OSU thread.

**DaddyMac** · 06-10-2010, 02:53 PM

Mizzou is an open question yet, right?

Is it that difficult to wrestle without a conference? How does UNI do it? Seems many of these meets are more of the tourney variety anyway.

**Cloner97** · 06-10-2010, 02:54 PM

They should just shut it down and release all the grapplers to Iowa.

**rworkman83** · 06-10-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by DaddyMac

Mizzou is an open question yet, right?

Is it that difficult to wrestle without a conference? How does UNI do it? Seems many of these meets are more of the tourney variety anyway.

UNI was part of a group of schools that formed a wrestling-only conference in 2006-07.

UNI Joins Western Wrestling Conference - NORTHERN IOWA OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE

**RandomFan** · 06-10-2010, 02:57 PM

I think wrestling will be just fine. I really do, but I'm no wrestling expert. But I see schools like Cornell, Boise State and UNI as national players in wrestling. And those aren't BCS schools.

**jbhtexas** · 06-10-2010, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by RandomFan

I think wrestling will be just fine. I really do, but I'm no wrestling expert. But I see schools like Cornell, Boise State and UNI as national players in wrestling. And those aren't BCS schools.

Boise St. wrestles as a member of the Pac-10.

Pac-10 Conference - Conference of Champions Official Athletic Site

ISU could do something similar if all the other wrestling teams bailed. If the number of Big 12 wrestling teams becomes 3 or less, the conference might consider inviting the Western Wrestling Conference teams to merge in, in order to keep the number of qualifiers for the NCAA nationals up.

It would be nearly impossible to wrestle for national championships as an independent.

**brianhos** · 06-10-2010, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cloner97

They should just shut it down and release all the grapplers to Iowa.

If a tree falls in the forest...

**a fan** · 06-10-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Cloner97

They should just shut it down and release all the grapplers to Iowa.

And you think this is not exactly what Iowa and powers that be don't want. They want there to be only one major university in this state....and that is Iowa, the goal and hope of IOwa fans and the powers can turnof ISU into a lower tier Universiy, lower even than UNI. No competition either athletically OR ACADEMICALLY for Iowa. Watch what Branstead does, an Iowa alum, never any support for ISU.

**isukendall** · 06-10-2010, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

It would be nearly impossible to wrestle for national championships as an independent.

Could you explain your logic on this? I think we would see the same competition during the regular season that we do now, the only difficulty would be qualifying for nationals. That doesn't necessarily require being in a conference. There are some "regional" qualifiers that are not separated by conference. For example:

NCAA Division I Wrestling Qualifier Allocations, Final Coaches' Panel Rankings and Final RPI Announced for 2009 Championships - NCAA.org

**jdoggivjc** · 06-10-2010, 04:03 PM

ISU probably has enough power to wrestle as an independent and be just fine.

**jbhtexas** · 06-10-2010, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by isukendall

Could you explain your logic on this? I think we would see the same competition during the regular season that we do now, the only difficulty would be qualifying for nationals.

In order to wrestle for the national championship, you really need to get 8-10 qualifiers. Take a look at the finishing order this year, and take a look at how far the point total for the first independent is from the top five.

NCAA.com - The Official Website of NCAA Championships - NCAA

**2forISU** · 06-10-2010, 04:10 PM

I really like winning big 12 titles and you can't do that be independent.

**hawkeyescott** · 06-10-2010, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

In order to wrestle for the national championship, you really need to get 8-10 qualifiers. Take a look at the finishing order this year, and take a look at how far the point total for the first independent is from the top five.

NCAA.com - The Official Website of NCAA Championships - NCAA

If ISU is independent they will still compete for national titles. They would probably go to the West Regional like UNI that is a qualifying tournament for nationals and be able to get 8 to 10 guys to nationals.

**SPOONER** · 06-10-2010, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

In order to wrestle for the national championship, you really need to get 8-10 qualifiers. Take a look at the finishing order this year, and take a look at how far the point total for the first independent is from the top five.

NCAA.com - The Official Website of NCAA Championships - NCAA

None of those teams have our budget and resources. We'd be fine as an independent and probably wrestle a similar schedule. It makes sense for wrestling but not the big sports.