Dear Cyclone Alley Central

[Al_4_State]

Totally agree! The students that need to be in the front row are the ones that are sitting in the balcony. They arrive late but they they are the ones that like basketball more and will have better chants. I like the days when we got on the players For example, when Piere Pierce got called a rapist the whole game or when brunner got called something to do with trailer park trash (i forget the chant). Now its just a bunch of boring chants that i dont want to hear and are lame.... get on the players on the opposing teams

I remember chanting "ROGAINE" when Brunner shot free throws, as well as "NO MEANS NO! NO MEANS NO!" at Pierre Pierce. How about chanting "You're a tractor!" when Jeremiah Massey from KSU was shooting free throws? What about "**** Haluska"? Cyclone Alley today wouldn't stand for any of that. Alford was so upset at how the students berated and verbally abused Pierce that he wrote a letter to BVD which ended up in the Daily. I'm not one for living in the past, but what the hell happened to those days?

 

[06_CY]

I remember chanting "ROGAINE" when Brunner shot free throws, as well as "NO MEANS NO! NO MEANS NO!" at Pierre Pierce. How about chanting "You're a tractor!" when Jeremiah Massey from KSU was shooting free throws? What about "**** Haluska"? Cyclone Alley today wouldn't stand for any of that. Alford was so upset at how the students berated and verbally abused Pierce that he wrote a letter to BVD which ended up in the Daily. I'm not one for living in the past, but what the hell happened to those days?

Now those were fun times. I have fond memories of yelling **** at Pierre, Greg and the big guy from Colorado.

 

[1100011CS]

Suggestion #1: When we're playing Iowa don't wear black jackets! I bet there were 20 people in CA wearing black last night.

 

[superfan]

Suggestion #1: When we're playing Iowa don't wear black jackets! I bet there were 20 people in CA wearing black last night.

This had better be a joke.

So let me get this straight...if you're wearing a cardinal shirt or Cyclone Alley shirt from the wrong year, GTFO. Wearing our opponent's colors? Hey, at least you've got the right shirt on, even if nobody can see it!

 

[Flag Guy]

Not to call you a liar, but in your pic you are seated in CA which is obviously from the first year (from the shirt) where there were only about 500-600 members and you could choose which side to sit on. Seems as if you chose CA.

The second year of CA membership jumped from ~500 members to nearly 2500 members, which is why the athletic dept and alumni association agreed to make it both sides.

Student demand is the reason for CA going to both ends of the court the third year. Those three years that I was involved with CA the section was loud. I'm not going to stick up for the section because there were some things that I wasn't in favor of when i was a part of CAC, just wanted to get that reasoning out there that it was the student interest that made CA take over the student section creating what we have today.

I believe that picture is from a game vs Kansas. I don't remember if that was assigned seats that year or not... I went with several others to sit there... I'm fairly certain I was on the West (read: GA side), and may have just worn the shirt so I could get the prop, or it was all CA for that game or something.

I'd bring my CA shirt so if the prop was good I could get it and then go back to my seats, or sit on the CA side if I wanted to (I didn't say I sat exclusively in the GA section, I said I prefered it)

Student demand also increased in part because it became neccesary to have it to get good seats. I doubt I'd have paid for Cyclone Alley the last few years if I didn't have to to sit in the Arena circle

 

[deadeyededric]

Agree. Please go watch tapes from the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's when the students just went with plain old ear splitting screaming. That OOOHHHH! when were on defense just sux. Cyclone Alley started my senior year when just one end was CA. The side I sat on was like old times way better than this new stuff!!!!

 

[Flag Guy]

Actually Flag Guy there are also rules about showing up to football games drunk too. But guess what? People do anyway. You are just making up excuses. Show up drunk CAC won't care as long as you aren't going on or throwing things on the court.

Maybe they're too busy patrolling for shirts And the difference between Football and Basketball is with football thats an actual law, enforced by police. With basketball it is also a rule of the student section, and has in the past been enforced by students, who could revoke your ability to sit there (In addition to the police or Hilton Staff)

I'm wasn't making excuses, I was making a comment on someone's point.

 

[superfan]

OK, here's an idea, even though it'll be ignored regardless of whether I post it here or e-mail it in. At least if it's posted here people can see it and know it's out there.

1.) Get rid of the shirt Gestapo. It's obvious this is the biggest sore spot.
2.) Change the regulation for entrance. You can either:
a.) Allow anyone wearing a cardinal shirt in, or, if you want to be more restrictive,
b.) Allow anyone wearing a CA shirt in, regardless of the CA shirt "year".

I'm sure the rebuttal is, "but we want to look uniform!" Good for you. You can still have that. Stop wasting money redesigning the shirts every year. Pick a design, set it, and keep making shirts every year with the same design. If you want to discern different shirts from different years, put the year in tiny font down in the lower left-hand corner. Change that from year-to-year, nothing else, so that, from a distance, they all look the same. Charge everyone an extra $15 on season tickets and give them a CA shirt when they pick up their tickets. Before long, the issue of "wrong shirt design" is dead and gone.

Students, if you don't like what's going on, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Bring a petition to the conference games. See someone unhappy with CA? Have them sign it. It's easy to ignore people venting on a message board, not so much when you've got a petition signed by a couple hundred people.

 

[MartyFine]

I have a good feeling that this season might be the end of Cyclone Alley. I don't think it's a coincidence that since the student section went fully Cyclone Alley (start of the 2005 season) that we only have one win over a ranked team at home (Iowa 2005). When is the last team ISU has gone 4 years without beating a ranked team at home in basketball? I'm dead serious. I guarantee it was pre-Orr. Just make the student section like football, or get the students spread through the crowd to get it going.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet...

 

[isucy1234]

quit doing that jump up and down yelling OOOOOOOOOOOO. That is freaking stupid. it's duke ****.

So let me get this right... you want the students to stop cheering? To stop making noise? Because Duke does it better?

Totally agree! The students that need to be in the front row are the ones that are sitting in the balcony. They arrive late but they they are the ones that like basketball more and will have better chants.

Please tell me how fans that arrive late like basketball more than the ones who get there before the doors open an hour before the game.

has anyone thought that maybe its been the whole losing thing that changed the culture more than cyclone alley. I mean I have been in CA for all 3 years i've been here and I am yet to see an upset victory. I am one cheering loud for every game, but if you consistently give people nothing to cheer about for 3+ years it gets harder and harder to really get into it.

+1

 

[Flag Guy]

Not to call you a liar, but in your pic you are seated in CA which is obviously from the first year (from the shirt) where there were only about 500-600 members and you could choose which side to sit on. Seems as if you chose CA.

Lest I not be judged by one picture.... :wink:

Most of the pictures I have from Freshman / Sophmore year were on actual film. I scanned a few, but most remain as such. As it is, my avatar right now came from Cyclone Alley's webpage, so it makes sense that I've got a CA shirt on (If anyone still has the full sized version of that picture somewhere... I would REALLY like a copy of it!)

A varriety of freshman/sophmore year photos, mostly taken before/after the games, with me wearing my Superfan shirt instead of CA's shirt :wink:

 

[ISUPoker]

This type of thread is always hilarious.... rather than blame themselves, the "adults" blame the students.

- The students will never move amongst "the people" again because ISU will lose money that way.
- Cyclone Alley is louder than the rest of Hilton combined, and its not even close.
- Most of you complaining about it either aren't at the games or are sitting on your hands most the games.
- Who stands up the entire game....Cyclone Alley or the Adults? Cyclone Alley. Hell, some of the adults don't even stand up, and when they do their arms are crossed.
- In the pre-game intros, pretty much all of Cyclone Alley is standing up clapping, meanwhile about half of the adults are not clapping.
- Who leaves their seats earlier, Cyclone Alley or the adults, especially the ones who remain in the parquet. What do you have going that night and why is your time so precious? Is the 15 minutes you save by leaving early, and making Hilton look like a ghost town as a result, worth it?

Let me just say that I don't disagree with the disappointment in the students, I often do the OOOOOOOO chant only to realize I'm the only one doing it and succumb to peer pressure and fall silent. Heck, I was giving people crap for not chanting "We Want Barnes" before the game started when there were only about 10 of us chanting it right next to HB. I asked "Do you not want the #1 recruit in the country?!?!" to people around me, and it did no good. As the next time around it did nothing (albeit it was great when the game actually started).

The problem lies more with the adults thinking they shouldn't cheer and get crazy because they're not in their 20's anymore. Cyclone Alley is by far louder than the rest of the adults.

 

[1100011CS]

This had better be a joke.

So let me get this straight...if you're wearing a cardinal shirt or Cyclone Alley shirt from the wrong year, GTFO. Wearing our opponent's colors? Hey, at least you've got the right shirt on, even if nobody can see it!

Nope, no joke. And no, I'm not counting the recruits or whoever were sitting in the corner near the ISU bench.

 

[NIowaClone]

I liked Cyclone Alley as a freshman back in 04-05, but that was it. I soon realized that with Cyclone Alley, the excitement was declining, and the non-Cyclone Alley sections kind of sat on their hands, being really quiet, assuming the students would make the noise, stand up, and be exuberant. That needs to change to the point we can get the enitre Hilton Coliseum rockin' back in the real Hilton Magic days. Consider Cyclone Alley just a way for security to control crowds. If all the "ruckus" so to speak is in one general vicinity, its easier to collaborate. Otherwise, I see no other point to Cyclone Alley.

That's my rant.

Go State!

 

[MoreCowbell]

This type of thread is always hilarious.... rather than blame themselves, the "adults" blame the students.

- The students will never move amongst "the people" again because ISU will lose money that way.
- Cyclone Alley is louder than the rest of Hilton combined, and its not even close.
- Most of you complaining about it either aren't at the games or are sitting on your hands most the games.
- Who stands up the entire game....Cyclone Alley or the Adults? Cyclone Alley. Hell, some of the adults don't even stand up, and when they do their arms are crossed.
- In the pre-game intros, pretty much all of Cyclone Alley is standing up clapping, meanwhile about half of the adults are not clapping.
- Who leaves their seats earlier, Cyclone Alley or the adults, especially the ones who remain in the parquet. What do you have going that night and why is your time so precious? Is the 15 minutes you save by leaving early, and making Hilton look like a ghost town as a result, worth it?

Let me just say that I don't disagree with the disappointment in the students, I often do the OOOOOOOO chant only to realize I'm the only one doing it and succumb to peer pressure and fall silent. Heck, I was giving people crap for not chanting "We Want Barnes" before the game started when there were only about 10 of us chanting it right next to HB. I asked "Do you not want the #1 recruit in the country?!?!" to people around me, and it did no good. As the next time around it did nothing (albeit it was great when the game actually started).

The problem lies more with the adults thinking they shouldn't cheer and get crazy because they're not in their 20's anymore. Cyclone Alley is by far louder than the rest of the adults.

Only some of the people complaining are students who either are or have been part of CA. It's not just Us against Them in here. Considering this is the third or fourth thread on CA in, what, two weeks, *something* isn't working.

Aside from an underground revolution, change to CA probably won't happen this year.
Yes, wins will help, but I don't think they would solve everything.

There have been some good, viable suggestions in the various threads. In order to be taken seriously, a group of students need to get together and compose a presentation to give to the CAC, SALC and AD about suggested changes and why and how they should be implemented. Bonus points if those changes either 1) increase revenue for the AD or 2) decrease expenditures.

Otherwise it'll continue to be anonymous ******** on an internet message board.

 

[Cyclone06]

I am not a fan of cyclone alley at all. This is my second year being a part of it and I can't wait to see it go back to the way it was. I remember coming to games when I was younger and not even being able to talk to someone next to me because it was so loud. Half the people in the lower section of CA are just there because they think it's cool to be at the game, they end up not cheering at all. At the UNI game this year me and a guy next to me were yelling at the refs for some blatantly obvious fouls that were not called and some chick turned around and told us to be quiet. I think instead of checking if you have the shirt they should breathalyze you and only let you in if you are above .08:laugh:

Its been that way since it started. Somehow going to basketball games is now a resume builder for students.

 

[JustRedman]

Anyone know what the attendance was? The lower level looked pretty full, but how was the upper deck?

It really makes me miss the Hilton Magic of old, when Lafester went off for 53 there wasn't an empty seat in the house. When, if ever, will we get back to Cyclone BB being the big ticket in Ames area?

 

[cyclonenum1]

Anyone know what the attendance was? The lower level looked pretty full, but how was the upper deck?

It really makes me miss the Hilton Magic of old, when Lafester went off for 53 there wasn't an empty seat in the house. When, if ever, will we get back to Cyclone BB being the big ticket in Ames area?

It was 54...but who's counting.

12/19/87.

 

[bootcy]

The way it was prior to 2002 is the way it should be. Before CA and before you had assigned seating for the Kansas and Iowa games when the studen section had seats in the parquet. For the 2001 Kansas game we waited out is subzero temps for hours drinking to stay warm and then made a mad dash for seats when the doors opened, nearly 2 hours prior to tip. That was a phenominal atmosphere and the way things should be.

 

[IcSyU]

People have an uncanny ability to overstate anything they were a part of. Cyclone Alley is no different than old student sections were. Students are still students. Cyclone Alley is an easy cop-out for people to *****. Cyclone Alley doesn't keep you from cheering, and the number of college students who can't afford to spend $30 to get the crap can't afford season tickets at $125.
Spreading students throughout the arena does nothing but **** off the people with kids who don't want to hear what college kids have to say.
Spreading students around doesn't increase noise in anything other than artificial ways.
Spreading students around pisses off the people who want to sit down the entire game.
Spreading students around can stick the sallies on the floor level during huge games.
Spreading students around better lead to either a decrease in ticket prices (not happening) or inclusion of break tickets into the student tickets (also not happening).
Maybe instead of ******** about it, people should take matters into their own hands, get off the ***** and cheer. Cyclone Alley doesn't help anything, but it doesn't hurt anything. Do I think the shirt rule is stupid? Yeah. Worst case scenario, see if the AD will let CA sell shirts at Cy's Locker Room for $5 (they're being produced for less than that per shirt) and then tickets are transferable, or just require a cardinal shirt. Get rid of all the crappy props (like the cheap wrist bands, printing off sheets of paper with a "3" on the back, etc.). Save money, pass the savings on to the students. Requiring SAA membership with CA is complete garbage.

Want to sit on the floor? Fine, show up early or have someone save you seats. God knows I do for every game.

Finally, comparing football to basketball is apples to oranges. There's are a TON more students at football games, there is a whole day to tailgate ahead of time, and it's always on the weekend. Most people have no desire to get completely hammered when we're playing a weeknight game. If you're drunk you also have to take CyRide or other means of transportation instead of driving. Saying drunkenness would help CA is complete bull ****.

Oh, and whoever mentioned the people in the upper deck are the ones who should be in the front row but they show up late, maybe they should stop ******** and show up early. If you show up when the doors open an hour before the game, you're all but guaranteed the bottom 4 rows (Iowa and Kansas are the exceptions).