McDermotts future

If we don't make the NCAA tourney this year would you want McDermott to come back?

  • If you would want him back

    Votes: 215 40.9%
  • If you would want him gone

    Votes: 311 59.1%

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bel79

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I want McD to work out as much as anyone. For whatever reason though things don't seem to be headed in a better direction. After this year would be an ideal time for a new regime as the top two scorers will both be gone and we will be starting over anyway.

If they end up under .500 in the conference and doesn't get let go I am not sure how JP can justify that considering Wayne had far more success in 3 years and was let go.

As I see it - by the end of the year the top two scorers might be back next year for their sosh and jr year. UNLESS something changes.
 
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No offense but Brackins and Gilstrap are here now and we can't win what will be different next year. Other then two players that had to choose between us smaller programs in smaller conferences.
how does another year playing together not make them better? the longer a team sticks together the better they get. i don't know how you can say that's not true..
 

PJZ

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how does another year playing together not make them better? the longer a team sticks together the better they get. i don't know how you can say that's not true..

We arent competing in a vacuum.
 
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Part of me wants to tell Lucca to take Mac with him, the other part of me says McD is getting hosed just as bad as us fans. Keep him...I guess, our basketball program to this point is a circus regardless of who comes in. He's got time left on his contract, just finish it out. Only now, start recruiting guys that fit the Iowa State mold. I think Forde on ESPN wrote an article about how Bo Ryan, Tony Bennett, and Mike Anderson recruit guys that fit their system, not so much the best player available. Mac needs to get in contact with those guys and develop a recruiting plan and then stick to one style of basketball that fits those players, no flip-flopping from season to season or even midseason. If he'll do that, why not, just let him finish the contract.
Be carefull of what you wish for. If Mac goes and gets guys that fit his system we'll turn into a UNI. A bunch of white farm guys that can shoot the threes and play hard but have no athletic ability.
 

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how does another year playing together not make them better? the longer a team sticks together the better they get. i don't know how you can say that's not true..


In theory yes, but reality tells me you should be seeing results now. I don't blame the players really here either I see this as more of a lack of coaching being done. If you have a star like Brackins you need to create more chances for him to score. Mac just does not have the ability to adjust to the game at all he just keeps trying to use what they practice in hope that it might eventually work. By then the game is already out of our hands.
 

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I remember when Johnny O lost all those conf road games and a lot of them were bad blow outs. One thing that I think hurts McD is that they stay close in most of the games they lose and make frustrating turnovers and really bad freethrow efforts and still could win with a few minutes left. This really tends to jerk the fan base off and evrybody calls for the coaches head. The point guard handles the ball 3/4 of the time and I have all the respect in the world for Garrett's effort and attitude, but I think alot of the team's problems stem from the lack of a point guard that can make a shot away from the bucket, occassionally. McD cast his lot with Garrett and until he develops a shot, we will struggle. The team defense is not bad or we would not continually be in position to win games. We have three big guys that can score-Brackins, Gilstrap and Dendy, get them the ball where they can do something with it! And any coach deserves 4 or 5 years as long as they work hard, do not disrespect the fans and keep the NCAA lawyers away. I have no problem with McD getting his chance for two more years. It would be 2 or 3 years before a coaching change would produce much anyway.
 

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Elgin Cook and DeMarcus Phillips will both be good for us. The problem is we have good players RIGHT NOW and we aren't winning. That's the scary part. We have 2 legitimate NBA caliber players, a 3 year starter at PG and a good post at 6'11" and we can't win games. That HAS to be coaching. There is no other explanation.
+1
 

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What about all the talent that the poster your thoughts mirror talks about.

Could you comment on that?

Yes, I like the talent that's here, and the talent that is coming in. We're getting consistently solid recruits, and I think it's only a matter of time before everything clicks. I'm as concerned as the next guy that it hasn't happened yet, and also about the player defections, but I think he'll succeed if given the time.
 

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I would want him back, and here is why:


  1. If we change coaches now, who exactly are we going to get? Let us be honest, we are not exactly a "hot job" with the cupboard loaded like when Orr retired.
  2. Yes, its been 4 years, you cannot ignore the adversity that the program has seen, especially this week, this loss.
  3. A coaching change is almost certain to cause another 2-4 years of rebuilding.
Look, I am not happy with McD right now. In fact, I don't think he could hold Floyd's clipboard. He can/will learn from this season. He is still a relatively young coach.
 
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Be carefull of what you wish for. If Mac goes and gets guys that fit his system we'll turn into a UNI. A bunch of white farm guys that can shoot the threes and play hard but have no athletic ability.

You mean like Duke?
 

price26

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I would want him back, and here is why:


  1. If we change coaches now, who exactly are we going to get? Let us be honest, we are not exactly a "hot job" with the cupboard loaded like when Orr retired.
  2. Yes, its been 4 years, you cannot ignore the adversity that the program has seen, especially this week, this loss.
  3. A coaching change is almost certain to cause another 2-4 years of rebuilding.
Look, I am not happy with McD right now. In fact, I don't think he could hold Floyd's clipboard. He can/will learn from this season. He is still a relatively young coach.

This is what I am thinking as well. I hate all the turnover we have in players coming and going. But we take another 2-3 years of steps back I think if we go looking for a new head coach.

I hate losing, but I'm still holding out hope for this season, we're 12-6 and 1-2 in conference. The last game just came on a last second ditch out by one of our better players. And that really wasn't McD's fault and was more of just like kicking him when he's already down to 8 scholarship players after injuries.
 

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2010- Ejim and phillips will be good. Railey might be solid.
2011- Elgin Cook could be spectactular, huge upside
Could also potentially get Randle and bunch of other top 150 talent
2012- Staten will be a stud, probably a 4 star, chance at Paige he will have a shot at a 5 star
2013- Maybe a shot at Jok, who might be the top player in the nation for his class.

If he can lock some of these other guys up we have shot to be really good, but he needs to nab atleast a couple of these of guys to give me faith.
 

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McDermotts finally starting to get better at recruiting the athletic kids that can run but he still hasn't figured out how to coach them and make them better. His coaching style doesn't fit the recruits hes getting.

Well, he went out and got better athletes... now here's the REAL challenge: getting players here who are athletic AND have a decently high basketball IQ. Tough when you don't win games though... one of the two has gotta give.
 

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DG, SC, Dendy, Brackins, Ham, Phillips, Ejim, Oliver, CC. That is our roster next year. Not all of it, but the keys. That is significantly better to me than what we have now. Brackins may go but as of right now I don't think he is drafted. Right now I think Gilstrap may be a 1st rounder. He is by far our most consistent player.

I'm not saying we are a tourney team next year but I don't think we are worse.
 

cyfan4St8

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DG, SC, Dendy, Brackins, Ham, Phillips, Ejim, Oliver, CC. That is our roster next year. Not all of it, but the keys. That is significantly better to me than what we have now. Brackins may go but as of right now I don't think he is drafted. Right now I think Gilstrap may be a 1st rounder. He is by far our most consistent player.

I'm not saying we are a tourney team next year but I don't think we are worse.

So we should be fine with mediocrity from here on out then while even Baylor is starting to build a good program.