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if not for a couple of ill-timed misses by Shaggy for two straight years? I've never been one to put any blame on him, and I never will... just wondering if our situation today would be better if we'd won the north those years.
 
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No different.

If the Iowa regents weren't a bunch of d-bags in the 1980s trying to kill ISU, and as a result of that had ISU been able to at least somewhat keep pace in the facility arms race, and as a result we didn't have 20 years of absolute dismal athletics, perhaps we're talking. Our chances were screwed long before Shaggy earned his nickname. Keep in mind - K-State made BCS back in 2003, and they're just as screwed as we are.
 
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Nope. Not unless you think it brings us several national championships, however many conference crowns, another 35K fans per game and a x2 budget.

It'd also help if we were in a completely different market - but that doesn't seem to be helping Missouri either.
 
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I'm not necessarily talking about the Big 10 or anything. I mean even in just making us more attractive to the MWC or the Big East or whoever might be around to pick up our garbage.
 
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Hollinger said:
I'm not necessarily talking about the Big 10 or anything. I mean even in just making us more attractive to the MWC or the Big East or whoever might be around to pick up our garbage.
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jdoggivjc said:
No different.

If the Iowa regents weren't a bunch of d-bags in the 1980s trying to kill ISU, and as a result of that had ISU been able to at least somewhat keep pace in the facility arms race, and as a result we didn't have 20 years of absolute dismal athletics, perhaps we're talking. Our chances were screwed long before Shaggy earned his nickname. Keep in mind - K-State made BCS back in 2003, and they're just as screwed as we are.
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Wash. Rinse. Dry. Repeat.
 
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I don't know... anymore it seems like a what have you done for me lately mentality. Teams that have had awful stretches within the last 20 years are suddenly power players because of current success.
 
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jdoggivjc said:
No different.

If the Iowa regents weren't a bunch of d-bags in the 1980s trying to kill ISU, and as a result of that had ISU been able to at least somewhat keep pace in the facility arms race, and as a result we didn't have 20 years of absolute dismal athletics, perhaps we're talking. Our chances were screwed long before Shaggy earned his nickname. Keep in mind - K-State made BCS back in 2003, and they're just as screwed as we are.
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Amen.
 
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The Mountain West isn't concerned with tv markets. They're concerned with athletic prestige and getting a BCS bid. The people on their boards are giving Mizzou and Kansas football more credit than either have earned, seemingly because of short term success in the north. If things had swung ISU's way those two years, maybe we wouldn't be getting left out of their ideas to pillage our remains.
 
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Hollinger said:
The Mountain West isn't concerned with tv markets. They're concerned with athletic prestige and getting a BCS bid. The people on their boards are giving Mizzou and Kansas football more credit than either have earned, seemingly because of short term success in the north. If things had swung ISU's way those two years, maybe we wouldn't be getting left out of their ideas to pillage our remains.
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You know that the people on their boards aren't the ones making decisions, right?
 
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And I'm not saying they are. My point is that the more people in the general public that see ISU as a legitimate addition to one of the mid-major conferences, the better situation we end up in.
 
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The Big 10's reasons for being interested in certain teams has nothing to do with smaller conferences reasons for wanting to pick up certain pieces.
 
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