Why most Americans don't like soccer.

[Mr Janny]

It's despicable that someone would do that...:wideeyed:

I know what you mean. Telly Savalas and Peter Falk rolled together? It's all trench coats, wrinkles, lollipops, and cigar butts.

 

[isucyfan]

That's a good question. I'm not sure I know the answer. Isucyfan might. He's sort of the Mod team's duplicate account detective. He's like Columbo and Kojak rolled into one.

Without going back and checking, I would say that it's around 7-8. However, that is over the span of many years. If someone does it quickly, they usually get a fast IP ban, which takes care of it.

We have given many people second chances (with different accounts) to not be jerks. Some have stayed around and behaved.

 

[3TrueFans]

Without going back and checking, I would say that it's around 7-8. However, that is over the span of many years. If someone does it quickly, they usually get a fast IP ban, which takes care of it.

We have given many people second chances (with different accounts) to not be jerks. Some have stayed around and behaved.

And we thank you for it :notworthy::wubclub:

 

[ScottyP]

The reason that soccer is not enjoyable to me is the lack of scoring, ties, and those damn vuvzelas sp. Who the heck wants to watch a 2hr game where it ends up in a 0-0 tie. A complete waste of time. A basketball game wouldn't be very exciting if nobody could make a basket.

 

[CycloneErik]

The reason that soccer is not enjoyable to me is the lack of scoring, ties, and those damn vuvzelas sp. Who the heck wants to watch a 2hr game where it ends up in a 0-0 tie. A complete waste of time. A basketball game wouldn't be very exciting if nobody could make a basket.

I agree with all of these, but with a caveat. That game 2 years ago (MBB) where we led Colorado 37-9 at the half was even more fun because of the Buffs' ineptitude.

 

[Chitownclone2]

No tradition. Baseball is easily as boring, but it's got a strong tradition in this country, love of the game is passed from generation to generation. Soccer doesn't have that and never will in the US. The real question should be why do people who don't like soccer feel like they need to tell everyone that they don't like it. I don't know the answer to that question.

I think you're off when you say "...never will..." As those from Mexico and other parts of Central America continue to contribute to the population of this country (along with those from African and Eastern European countries to a lessor extent) I think you'll continue to see the popularity of soccer in the U.S. grow closer to the rest of the world. Each time I go see a Fire game I'm surprised at what a minority I am. Additionally, soccer really took off in my generation and I'm now seeing those that I grew up with whose children are also playing soccer just as their moms and dads did in the 70s/80s. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

 

[3TrueFans]

I think you're off when you say "...never will..." As those from Mexico and other parts of Central America continue to contribute to the population of this country (along with those from African and Eastern European countries to a lessor extent) I think you'll continue to see the popularity of soccer in the U.S. grow closer to the rest of the world. Each time I go see a Fire game I'm surprised at what a minority I am. Additionally, soccer really took off in my generation and I'm now seeing those that I grew up with whose children are also playing soccer just as their moms and dads did in the 70s/80s. Pretty cool stuff if you ask me.

That's true I suppose. But even if soccer does start some kind of tradition baseball will still have a longer one.

 

[sweetwater]

"Each time I go see a Fire game I'm surprised at what a minority I am."

Tell me more about Fire games. I go to all the MLS web sites and check out highlights. Toyota Park looks nice. Is it easy to get to?

 

[sweetwater]

National Football League (2009)
67,508.69


Major League Baseball (2010)
28,623.82


National Basketball Association (2009/10)
17,149.61


National Hockey League (2009/10)
17,070.29


Major League Soccer (2010)
16,319.94

 

[CycloneChris]

Sorry.....I get a little passionate about the "everyone gets a trophy" crap. It's rediculous IMO.

You do realize the "everyone gets a trophy crap" was born from parents who grew up in what was supposedly the glory years for little league baseball.

It's a combination of people who remember how much little league baseball sucked for them and people who now push 10 year old travel teams playing in tournaments all over the country. The joy of little league baseball was destroyed by these two groups. So the overboard parents who push their kids onto travel teams have segregated their kids from the lesser talented kids, leaving them to their everyone gets a trophy leagues. And while this is true for almost all youth sports, the parents who have brought this on all grew up in the "glory years" of little league baseball."

 

[Al_4_State]

National Football League (2009)
67,508.69


Major League Baseball (2010)
28,623.82


National Basketball Association (2009/10)
17,149.61


National Hockey League (2009/10)
17,070.29


Major League Soccer (2010)
16,319.94

I bet MLS venues are a lot bigger than NHL or NBA ones. If you compared % of capacity, it wouldn't even be close.

 

[sweetwater]

I bet MLS venues are a lot bigger than NHL or NBA ones. If you compared % of capacity, it wouldn't even be close.

An awful lot of NBA teams do not sell out regularly. I don't think capacity of arena is holding those teams back much.

My point in posting those numbers is not to make some claim that MLS is as popular as the other leagues. Clearly, it is not.

However, I bet MLS attendance is a lot better than most sports fans realize.

 

[Al_4_State]

What I don't like about soccer, and this is going to sound weird, is the "production" so to speak.

Rock and roll nerds will understand what I'm talking about, but the way a song actually sounds coming out the speakers makes a lot of difference. An example: a lot of stuff out of the 80's sounds really slick. As if a lot of studio tricks have been put on it, etc. Alot of stuff out of the 90's was a reaction to that, and sounds really rough and raw by comparison. This is due to dramatically different production.

Soccer has a production value that I find unappealing. Something about the way the pace of the game is, the blare of the vuvuzelas, the aesthetics of the stadium, etc, just doesn't appeal to me.

I apologize if this doesn't make any sense, but I'm trying to put a really weird feeling into words. I respect the game, the rest of the world loves it, and I was mostly entertained by the US run in the World Cup, but the game has no staying power with me, and I doubt I'll ever watch a game that doesn't feature the US National team.

 

[sweetwater]

I bet MLS venues are a lot bigger than NHL or NBA ones. If you compared % of capacity, it wouldn't even be close.

Also, most MLS teams now have their own, soccer-specific stadiums. They are typically in the 18K - 22K capacity range. Philly just opened their new stadium this weekend. It seats 18,500.

But, two MLS teams - San Jose and Kansas City - play in 10K venues. So, the "capacity of arena" argument may actually play to the advantage of MLS. There are no NBA / NHL teams playing in 10K stadiums.

 

[CycloneChris]

I see your point on that one, but what about completely stopping play to carry a player off the field on a stretcher only to have him run right back on once he gets to the sidelines????

You mean like what happens all the time in football, with the exception that they stop the clock (and usually cut to commercial) so the guy can get off the field and sit out 1 play. And if it's a RB or QB, often times the next play is a throw away play so the replacement doesn't make a mistake.

 

[sweetwater]

I love rock n roll. The Replacements are my all time fave. But I do not follow you. : )

 

[RhoadsRage]

You do realize the "everyone gets a trophy crap" was born from parents who grew up in what was supposedly the glory years for little league baseball.

It's a combination of people who remember how much little league baseball sucked for them and people who now push 10 year old travel teams playing in tournaments all over the country. The joy of little league baseball was destroyed by these two groups. So the overboard parents who push their kids onto travel teams have segregated their kids from the lesser talented kids, leaving them to their everyone gets a trophy leagues. And while this is true for almost all youth sports, the parents who have brought this on all grew up in the "glory years" of little league baseball."

Well, my mom nor I was a "member" of either of these pathetic groups. I disagree with traveling little league teams unless it has to do with being a reward of being good and possibly going to the Little League World Series. When I was a kid growing up in Altoona, Iowa.......we played a whole season playing against other teams from Altoona and Bondurant(maybe 5 miles apart at the most). Then at the end of the season, the All-Star team was the one that traveled to play others........and FYI, the farthest we got from Des Moines was Perry(probably about 30 miles). And yes, we had no stupid trophies for everyone......if you were good and won, you got a trophy....if you sucked and lost, you didn't. I was a member of both on several occasions.

 

[Al_4_State]

I love rock n roll. The Replacements are my all time fave. But I do not follow you. : )

The Mats are a perfect case study for this.

I can't totally verbalize what I'm trying to say, but compare the actual recording sound of "Little Mascara" to oh, say "Take on Me" by A-Ha. The Replacements are one of the few bands that were around in the 80's that don't have that slick studio sound.

 

[RhoadsRage]

You mean like what happens all the time in football, with the exception that they stop the clock (and usually cut to commercial) so the guy can get off the field and sit out 1 play. And if it's a RB or QB, often times the next play is a throw away play so the replacement doesn't make a mistake.

At least in football the team either has to take a timeout or the player has to sit for a play so there is some kind of punishment.......soccer has neither.

 

[Mr Janny]

What I don't like about soccer, and this is going to sound weird, is the "production" so to speak.

Rock and roll nerds will understand what I'm talking about, but the way a song actually sounds coming out the speakers makes a lot of difference. An example: a lot of stuff out of the 80's sounds really slick. As if a lot of studio tricks have been put on it, etc. Alot of stuff out of the 90's was a reaction to that, and sounds really rough and raw by comparison. This is due to dramatically different production.

Soccer has a production value that I find unappealing. Something about the way the pace of the game is, the blare of the vuvuzelas, the aesthetics of the stadium, etc, just doesn't appeal to me.

I apologize if this doesn't make any sense, but I'm trying to put a really weird feeling into words. I respect the game, the rest of the world loves it, and I was mostly entertained by the US run in the World Cup, but the game has no staying power with me, and I doubt I'll ever watch a game that doesn't feature the US National team.

I think I know what you're getting at, and it's a very valid point.