Cam Newton to be suspended by NCAA (waiting on confirmation)
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There's a difference this time around, however. As far as I can tell, previous forfeitures/vacations have been done after the fact - one or more seasons after the year(s) in question where schedule manipulation would serve no purpose. In this case, however, if the NCAA were to act fast enough
biglaugh, the season in question that they would be ruling on would be this season, W/L manipulation would actually serve a purpose. For instance, Ole Miss - they could potentially finish their season at 5-7. Should that loss against Auburn keep them out of bowl consideration when Auburn was using an ineligible player? Or, consider LSU - should they lose their shot at a BCS championship when they lost to an Auburn team using an ineligible player?
I'm not necessarily saying they will or should adjust records based on a ruling against Auburn, but my impression always has been the NCAA hasn't done it in the past because in the past it served no purpose because it was several years in the past. I'm just saying it's different this time around because it's this season in question and there's still time to fix what was broken.
There's a difference this time around, however. As far as I can tell, previous forfeitures/vacations have been done after the fact - one or more seasons after the year(s) in question where schedule manipulation would serve no purpose. In this case, however, if the NCAA were to act fast enough
biglaugh, the season in question that they would be ruling on would be this season, W/L manipulation would actually serve a purpose. For instance, Ole Miss - they could potentially finish their season at 5-7. Should that loss against Auburn keep them out of bowl consideration when Auburn was using an ineligible player? Or, consider LSU - should they lose their shot at a BCS championship when they lost to an Auburn team using an ineligible player?I'm not necessarily saying they will or should adjust records based on a ruling against Auburn, but my impression always has been the NCAA hasn't done it in the past because in the past it served no purpose because it was several years in the past. I'm just saying it's different this time around because it's this season in question and there's still time to fix what was broken.
Wow, that's an awesome point. They won't be, which is stupid. Auburn losses the win but LSU keeps the loss. I think it should be as if the game wasn't played if the cheating team wins.
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Re: Cam Newton to be suspended by NCAA
You're saying that the Chizik effect has wider ramifications than what we've seen before, and I think you're making a good point. Lots of people could get Chiziked in this deal that don't deserve to be.
Question: If this really does go down, what NFL position coaching job can he land? Would anyone in college really touch him again?
There's a difference this time around, however. As far as I can tell, previous forfeitures/vacations have been done after the fact - one or more seasons after the year(s) in question where schedule manipulation would serve no purpose. In this case, however, if the NCAA were to act fast enough
I'm not necessarily saying they will or should adjust records based on a ruling against Auburn, but my impression always has been the NCAA hasn't done it in the past because in the past it served no purpose because it was several years in the past. I'm just saying it's different this time around because it's this season in question and there's still time to fix what was broken.
You're saying that the Chizik effect has wider ramifications than what we've seen before, and I think you're making a good point. Lots of people could get Chiziked in this deal that don't deserve to be.
Question: If this really does go down, what NFL position coaching job can he land? Would anyone in college really touch him again?
Re: Cam Newton to be suspended by NCAA
This is in no way similar to what was going on at USC. USC was found to lack insitutional control on many levels. Cam Newton and an agent/donor will pay the most in this instance. Auburn will get a slap on the wrist unless it is proven that they arranged payment.
Carrol left due to the recruiting restrictions, the bowl suspensions, etc. USC had violations in multiple sports as well. This will be tied to a sports agent/donor and Cam Newton. The NCAA will have to find fault of the university to put suspensions/fines on the coaches/ university. See UNC, Florida, Alabama at this time. those head coaches did not get touched/fined/etc.
This is in no way similar to what was going on at USC. USC was found to lack insitutional control on many levels. Cam Newton and an agent/donor will pay the most in this instance. Auburn will get a slap on the wrist unless it is proven that they arranged payment.
Re: Cam Newton to be suspended by NCAA
After taking a team that was starting to regularly go to bowl games and only winning 5 games in 2 years with them and then skipping town to win with ineligible players? Even if it isn't directly him doing the cheating, he is the head coach, therefore all problems are his. My vote is that the NCAA drop him like he's hot.
After taking a team that was starting to regularly go to bowl games and only winning 5 games in 2 years with them and then skipping town to win with ineligible players? Even if it isn't directly him doing the cheating, he is the head coach, therefore all problems are his. My vote is that the NCAA drop him like he's hot.
Re: Cam Newton to be suspended by NCAA
Would you touch anything with that much Chiz on it?
I don't understand people who say they feel bad for Newton because he's a nice kid. Do you think he didn't know that taking 200k to come to a school was against NCAA violations? Is he supposed to be an innocent victim in this? He knew what he was doing and I don't feel the slightest bit sorry for him, even more so since he'll still make bank in the NFL. His draft stock will drop, but he'll still get a paycheck out of it.
Re: Cam Newton to be suspended by NCAA
I think you nailed it TAZ -- Also, I'll be amazed if he is suspended. Assuming they can link anything to Auburn (these SEC booster know how to cheat - lots of practice) ......These cases take years to ensure they have the witnesses and evidence they need. Mid-season suspension for a non-felony ain't a gonna happen. It's the safest most conservative approach. If true, you can always get them later.
I'm mostly of this opinion, however, after watching that 30 for 30 on Marcus Dupree last night, you have to wonder how much control a kid like that really has of their situation.
