Attention ISU students
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While I agree that the student turnout so far this season has been pathetic, remember we were a terrible team last season, with 3 players that people "know" and we have only played 3 games so far. Tickets are also quite expensive if your parents do not choose to pay for them, and if you have to add in CycloneAlley membership you are looking at appx. $150. All of you while in school would agree that this isnt just some small amount of cash and even if students do pay this, odds are they need to work to make this money, and probably had to work on a monday night depending on their jobs.
All of you "old" people complaining on these boards about how bad the students have been should either donate money to reduce the costs of student tickets, convince your friends to show up to the games, or actually cheer at the games so it isnt as pitiful as the last few have been.
Complaining on a message board solves zero of the problems facing the attendance problem, so maybe go and actually do something about it.
Thanks.
I go to all the games (I'm in the band), but it's really exhausting hearing you guys rail on the students.
Guess what? Basketball has never been good. I'm a senior, here's some reference:
I've never seen an ISU team advance past the first round of the B XII tournament.
I've never heard ISU mentioned in tournament talk.
I've never seen ISU beat a ranked opponent in Hilton.
I've never seen a close game against Kansas.
I could go on, but I wont. Basketball has not been good MY ENTIRE COLLEGE CAREER and you guys expect students to come out? I can't blame "fringe fans" for staying home and playing Halo/COD over a basketball game because based on the last four years Halo IS better.
I can't wait to see a good ISU team. But until I do, I'm not blaming anyone for doing anything else.
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Students also get less tickets as thanksgiving and christmas break games are not a part of the season ticket package.
$99 corners / 19 games = $5.21 per game
$155 student / 14 games = $11.07 per game
thats over double the price compared to the corners, and that is absolutely unacceptable if we are expecting the student section to be filled to the brim.
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I highly doubt extra alumni donations will result in lower student ticket costs. From the trend we're seeing, I'd say they're only going to go up in price from season to season. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just being realistic.
Very valid points but a lot of the older people will tell you we suffered through the Walden years in football. Hell, I made every home football game during my tenure at ISU. I sat through the 0-10-1 season. Talk about painful. losses to UNI, Western Michigan and Rice. Ugh.
I don't have an issue witht he turnout last night. Like somone said, throughout our history, the turnout was poorer during preconference play. I think at one time you could even buy tickets for non conference, conference or full season. I just think a lot of the excuses are just that..excuses
I agree that us older folks should cheer more! The ones around me seem half asleep.
Oh, and here's a suggestion for the students: turn your phones off, pretend you're at a movie. I've seen students in CA stop in the middle of a cheer to check the text they just got...
Point being.. these seats are empty and have been since the Fizer/Tinsley days....
The upper deck portion of the student section has been 85% empty for the last 10 7 years. Let people buy cheap tickets and sit there. Get rid of Cyclone Alley. make One lower level student ticket section on one side of the lower bowl.
Let people (like me) buy lower parquet tickets where the students were.
If the students want to go to the game and theres not enough room in the student section... easy.... let them buy ANY ticket.
The upper deck portion of the student section has been 85% empty for the last 10 7 years. Let people buy cheap tickets and sit there. Get rid of Cyclone Alley. make One lower level student ticket section on one side of the lower bowl.
Let people (like me) buy lower parquet tickets where the students were.
If the students want to go to the game and theres not enough room in the student section... easy.... let them buy ANY ticket.
Football is mainly on Saturdays and is 5-7 times a year, not any day of the week 18 times
Football is also played outside in the elements so there are plenty of excuses. Having watched both, it was much more difficult to watch the 0-10-1 season than any MBB season. I could care less if people miss games. Just saying excuses are excuses. Just say you prioritize class over the game. Or you prioritize drinking last weekend over the game. If people really wanted to make the game, they could have changed their schedule to make it happen unless they worked or had class. That is all I am saying.
My relative missed the game last night to write a paper but had time to go drinking all weekend. He prioritized drinking over the game. I have no problem with that but when he said he missed the game to write a paper, I call BS. He put the paper off until the last minute so he could do other things. He also watched the game on a computer at the library so obviously, he had the time for the game but chose not to go for some reason.
CycloneErik
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Someday.
You know, campus has bike racks. I can brutalize you anywhere. I've got all week. :wink:
I've seen the remark on this thread that non-conference games have never been packed. I've gotta call BS on that. I remember when I was there in the late 80s/early 90s that the non-conference games were quite packed.
We had roaming tickets as students. You never passed up seats near the floor. I remember a game against SUNY Buffalo. We won 106-36, the place was packed. Thigpen and Bayless were our guards at the time, it was the same season we beat KU when Adonis Jordan commented that the floor was shaking when he missed the freethrows in the final minute of the game that sealed their fate.
Students were spread out all over Hilton back then, and the crowds were not nearly as sparse as they've been the last several years.
We had roaming tickets as students. You never passed up seats near the floor. I remember a game against SUNY Buffalo. We won 106-36, the place was packed. Thigpen and Bayless were our guards at the time, it was the same season we beat KU when Adonis Jordan commented that the floor was shaking when he missed the freethrows in the final minute of the game that sealed their fate.
Students were spread out all over Hilton back then, and the crowds were not nearly as sparse as they've been the last several years.
The Walden years....PAINFUL. I remember going to a snow game, Fall 88, where there might have been 5,000 at the stadium. There was no reason to be at that game for anyone, I think the only people there were students....I think it was a forced habit walking to the stadium back in those days. It certainly wasn't the product on the field....only the hope that we might pull off an upset!!!
I liked the roaming tickets and really think it added to the atmosphere. I think putting students in amongst 40-60 years olds energizes everyone. The older fans fed off the students more because they were right there with them. No inuslt meant as I am almost 40 myself. I guess I will never understand why Cyclone Alley was created. I guess I go back to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." We had one of the best atmospheres in college basketball and they changed it. Why?
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I made a similar remark last year about going back to what originally created Hilton Magic, mix the students back in with the crowd. I was attacked by the pro Alley students at the time. I felt the same as you, it energized everybody.
The teams back then weren't spectacular teams that were ranked, but we held home court. We need to get that back. Every year you hear commentators comment about Hilton Magic...it hasn't been there in awhile.
I wish you guys would just cut the crap.
If ISU was a preseason top 20 team and won in the exact same fashion that they have thus far, the students would be there. Students aren't that different from anybody else, they want to support a winner. Say all you want about school spirit, but a poor team over time will earn poor fan support. Just look over in Iowa City--and they offer $6 tickets to their men's games.
The product on the court matters. But you youngsters don't realize what an opportunity you are missing. You get such a great deal, great seats at a great price, compared to everybody else. Some of us are just puzzled there are so few kids on campus who realize that.
I agree with those who say the excuse making is lame. If you wanted to be there, even with other obligations, you would be there. It's OK to say you just aren't a big basketball fan. But I think a re-assessment of seating priorities should at least be considered if that is the case. I'd love the chance to sit in those seats for a basketball game.
If ISU was a preseason top 20 team and won in the exact same fashion that they have thus far, the students would be there. Students aren't that different from anybody else, they want to support a winner. Say all you want about school spirit, but a poor team over time will earn poor fan support. Just look over in Iowa City--and they offer $6 tickets to their men's games.
The product on the court matters. But you youngsters don't realize what an opportunity you are missing. You get such a great deal, great seats at a great price, compared to everybody else. Some of us are just puzzled there are so few kids on campus who realize that.
I agree with those who say the excuse making is lame. If you wanted to be there, even with other obligations, you would be there. It's OK to say you just aren't a big basketball fan. But I think a re-assessment of seating priorities should at least be considered if that is the case. I'd love the chance to sit in those seats for a basketball game.
This. It took more than three games for basketball attendance to fall as much as it has. It will take more than three games for it to return to where it was.
Agreed that it took more than three games to get where it's at now, but the new staff and the players will feed off enthusiasm. Students can bring that more than any of us middle-aged guys that want to see some of that magic again!
