Maybe he just likes the program and wants to be apart of it??? why does there always have to be a "logical" reason..
New Basketball Commit - 2011
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How about this? Kid knows about Iowa State because of the recruiting intensity in New England and the East coast. He know what we have on board for next year. He knows about Freddy and Garrett, and the remarkably turnabout there. He wants to take a chance on that, and his family is wealthy enough to let him choose where he wants to get his education. Freddy is one of the hottest commodities in college hoops this spring.
Of course. At least everyone gets some sort of financial aid or a scholarship when they go to college. Just as they could recieve any scholarships from their hometown or whatever. When people reference an academic scholarship on here, they are usually referencing a full ride.
Unless the rules have changed in the past 10 years, I don't think that's the case. Paul Shirley spent his first two years on academic scholarship. After his redshirt sophomore year Larry thought he would be a valuable enough contributor to deserve a basketball scholarship.
Maybe he reads this message board and bought into the posters that say we don't have a single PG on the roster.
CycloneErik
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There doesn't, but if I were his folks and paying the bill, I'm pretty sure I'd be pushing for a "logical" decision. I'm sure we've all heard the words around that age, "Learn to like something else." That's a real costly decision just for liking something.
I'm glad to have him, I'll keep saying that. It doesn't make sense to me for anyone out of state to walk on and pay that extra tuition cost.
An academic scholarship counts towards the 13 total that a team is allowed. I assume there are gray areas.
Rhoads told a story last year at one of the events I was at. Last fall there was a walk-on football player who had never played in a game and had a small academic scholarship of just a few hundred dollars. Due to some injuries he made it to second string on a special team unit for a game. Because we were at the scholarship limit he would have to pay back the academic scholarship money out of his own pocket if he played. Rhoads knew the family didn't have a lot of money so he talked to the kid, explained the situation, and asked him if the situation arose did he want to play. The kid said that if he had the opportunity to go out on that field and represent ISU, even just for one play, it was worth it and he would find a way to pay back the scholarship.
So to answer your question, yes.
It is a complicated/confusing situation.
UNI has Max Martino from CR Kennedy walking on their basketball team. He was valedictorian there and has a full ride at UNI. Apparently that does not count against there 13 scholarships because he was not recruited by UNI, or something like that. He is a pretty good player and was more of a D2 prospect out of high school. He redshirted this year and some people think he may be able to contribute in a couple of years.
On a side note, whatever happened to Gary Payton jr(or II), I forget which one "said" he was coming here. Any more news on that?
I think the benefit of an academic scholarship is the funding comes from outside the athletic department.
In some cases but those still count towards the 13. UNI had 13 on scholarship last year and next year not counting Martino. For some reason his does not count. I do not know the exact rules but it has something to do with not being recruited.
Right. If they are in any way recruited, the scholarship counts. That includes suggesting to a player to walk on to the program. Look at the NCAA rules. I don't have time right now to look them up and link them again.
Thats how I understand it at least. It could benefit UNI in the future if Martino develops into a serviceable player. But I think that is a rare situation. It seems like a fine line to walk though if you are going to do it, especially if you are Iowa State. With our history with the NCAA.
Especially when, correct me if I'm wrong, but he is teammates to a guy that we are actively recruiting. That screams to me that if this guy is truly walking on that he must be taking zero scholarship money, as I don't think I would risk it given the NCAA and their 'fair' rulings.
