Keeler laid off from DMR

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Doesn't bother me a bit.......gave up on the rag when they went from $.50 to $.75 and around the same time cut the sports page from 4-6 pages to 2-3 pages. Sorry, but I'm not gonna pay 50% more and get 50% less for it. Would much rather read USA Today even if they don't have local coverage.
 

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I followed the Hawks when I was a kid . . and now can't stand em now. So what?

So the poster in question accused Keeler of not liking the Cyclones, and I brought up a specific reason why I don't think that is so.

Let me ask you a question....in your opinion, what is the role of a sports opinion columnist; 1) to give their opinions on local/national college/professional sports, even if that might be a negative or critical opinion or 2) to write nothing but heaps of praise for said sports teams and never have a bad word about anything sports-related that might upset the locals?
 

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Sorry but this post is quite wrong.

Failure of print has to do with lack of embracing social media/alternate forms of getting the product out there.

Not silly red versus blue.

I know many many conservatives who have turned away from print media BECAUSE of LIBERAL bias. They have retreated to other forms of social media.

Regarding the conservative view point and its popularity . . . why is FOX news doing so poorly and MSNBC et al are doing so well? :jimlad:

Further . . Conservative talk radio flourishes . . where or where is Air America?

I am not a Rush fan but HE is conservative (I can't stand his blabber mouth "profit center" and "talent on lone from God" crap).

The liberal left slant is dying and cannot sustain itself in a conservative majority America.
 
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Jeez . . don't start crying or something.

Wow. For you to accuse any other poster on this site of overreacting and getting all emotional, whether you're joking or not, is the new definition of irony.
 

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So the poster in question accused Keeler of not liking the Cyclones, and I brought up a specific reason why I don't think that is so.

Let me ask you a question....in your opinion, what is the role of a sports opinion columnist; 1) to give their opinions on local/national college/professional sports, even if that might be a negative or critical opinion or 2) to write nothing but heaps of praise for said sports teams and never have a bad word about anything sports-related that might upset the locals?

You take the internet way too seriously. Keeler is gone - your anonomous internet posts won't change that.
 

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So the poster in question accused Keeler of not liking the Cyclones, and I brought up a specific reason why I don't think that is so.

Let me ask you a question....in your opinion, what is the role of a sports opinion columnist; 1) to give their opinions on local/national college/professional sports, even if that might be a negative or critical opinion or 2) to write nothing but heaps of praise for said sports teams and never have a bad word about anything sports-related that might upset the locals?

I don't buy your premise at all . . I don't want somebody's opinion all the time. Especially with the same old TIRED formula: Sean throws out a glib observation . . . and then uses glitzty analogy to some other sports situation or personality . . then delivers the not so subtle slam against his target. In short, it gets boring.

Here is my point . . your formula and definition of "Opinion Writer" needs expansion. Why can't he write about some of the great people and events occuring everyday in Iowa? I don't NEED his opinion or take on something everytime he writes.

Rather . . he should have focused more on introducing ISU/Iowa fans to the greatness of sports in this state . . . That would actually take some work. But again, he burned a lot of bridges to our two major universities . . . I honestly think at times . . . Sean was getting lazy at the Rag.

BTW, I have written Emails of praise to Sean when I think he did very well. For example, when he tried to tell knuckleheaded Iowa fans that LOSING ISU is very bad for the state of Iowa (during conference realignment) . . . I heaped praise on him in this forum and wrote to him directly by Email. SO think about what I've said . . I don't hate Keeler . . I think he would do better on radio (frankly) because he would have to be more spontaneous.
 

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you guys realize hawk fans think he hates them too? there is a difference between a neutral perspective and hating a team...
 

Madclone1

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you guys realize hawk fans think he hates them too? there is a difference between a neutral perspective and hating a team...

Neutral? Hardly. Frankly, I agree with our fine feathered hawk fans . . he displayed contempt for both schools (ISU more often). His formula was a road trip off the cliff. I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.

He will do well on KXNO or on 1700.
 

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Was told yesterday that DMReg also has closed its Ames bureau location, and that was something learned entirely by accident. Sounds like it's becoming just "a paper in central Iowa."
Maybe they will just cover Big Ten stuff.
 

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You take the internet way too seriously. Keeler is gone - your anonomous internet posts won't change that.

WHAT!??!? You mean that all this time I've been operating under the delusion that by the sheer power of my presence online that I've been able to effect change to things I don't like? You're so heartless!!
 

Senolcyc

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You doubt it? FOX news has dismantled all the other cable news channels. Fox News isn't perfect by any means but it has the competition buried right now.


I'll take your word for it. I have no idea how the news networks rate. But I do know exactly where they stand. Fox News is ultra conservative. It's not fair and balanced. That's okay. But let's not expect anyone to be naive or delusional or downright stupid about it.
 

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The Register is subject to the same forces that affected the entire industry, as well as a major downturn that accelerated that, and there isn't a lot they can do about that.

That said, they initiated many changes that put them in this position IMO, that were undertaken long before anyone was using the internet, let alone heard of it. Of course management would say the changes were smart, that they were ahead of what they needed to do. But they would say that even if they were not. There is no reason for anyone there to own up to the decline in coverage and in quality over the last 20 or 30 years. What's done is done. But the fact is that they used to be one of the best newspapers in the country. They aren't anywhere close to that now.

I doubt that you could say the same about many other newspapers.

Though I rarely read his column, and I sometimes criticized him, I wish Keeler the best. If this position is lost, as appears likely, it really had nothing to do with him.

It is always possible that they could have had some great, genius, creative writer in that position and that would have helped, but it wouldn't have helped sales a lot, and I doubt that Keeler got paid a lot. The prestige of working for a major news outlet was probably part of the package.

Bigger picture, relatively slight incremental changes such as this, but much larger when added up over a longer period of time, is something Register readers and former readers have long become accustomed to. More so than readers of other newspapers.

Keeler won't be missed as some other writers who are no longer there, and I thought Hansen was much better in that position, but I am not going to get into that now.
 

ISUChippewa

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I don't buy your premise at all . . I don't want somebody's opinion all the time. Especially with the same old TIRED formula: Sean throws out a glib observation . . . and then uses glitzty analogy to some other sports situation or personality . . then delivers the not so subtle slam against his target. In short, it gets boring.

Here is my point . . your formula and definition of "Opinion Writer" needs expansion. Why can't he write about some of the great people and events occuring everyday in Iowa? I don't NEED his opinion or take on something everytime he writes.

Rather . . he should have focused more on introducing ISU/Iowa fans to the greatness of sports in this state . . . That would actually take some work. But again, he burned a lot of bridges to our two major universities . . . I honestly think at times . . . Sean was getting lazy at the Rag.

BTW, I have written Emails of praise to Sean when I think he did very well. For example, when he tried to tell knuckleheaded Iowa fans that LOSING ISU is very bad for the state of Iowa (during conference realignment) . . . I heaped praise on him in this forum and wrote to him directly by Email. SO think about what I've said . . I don't hate Keeler . . I think he would do better on radio (frankly) because he would have to be more spontaneous.

So please correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you didn't like how Keeler wrote, or what he wrote about?

In regards to the bolded part above, isn't that what Mark Hansen does now, or even other writers for the Register?

I do agree with your last sentence on Keeler and radio. IMO based on his writings he does seem to enjoy Des Moines and Iowa and if he wants to stick around the area I think radio would be a good avenue for him.
 

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I don't know if it was mentioned elsewhere, but Bill Fennelly tweeted that Dan Johnson has also been let go by the Register. He covered a variety of sports, including WBB and Barnstormers.
 
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