This is all that really matters. Their OL physically dominated our DL last year and if that doesn't change, it doesn't matter how good Coker or whoever else is, they'll be getting yards.
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This is all that really matters. Their OL physically dominated our DL last year and if that doesn't change, it doesn't matter how good Coker or whoever else is, they'll be getting yards.
This. I really don't know how good most of Iowa's backs have been in the past 5-10 years. We have had some good ones, that's for sure. But I think some of them have benefited from having some big holes to run through. Fortunately I think Coker will have that as well as being a talented back. He has a good head on his shoulders and seems to be a good kid.
what really may haunt iowa in the future, is Rodney Coe not qualifying.
Do hawk fans think that they will see him in a Hawk uniform?
Do hawk fans think that they will see him in a Hawk uniform?
I'm not sure it will haunt us, but it's never good to see a big time recruit not make it in. Not sure he would have played RB anyway. But right now I'd say it's 50/50 that we see him in a Hawk uniform. I think it will have a lot to do with how he matures in the next year and a half and what position he is at. If he thinks he can play right away at Iowa in that position (DT, methinks), then I could see him at Iowa. If not, I say he goes elsewhere.
Coker reminds me of former Nebraska I-back Dan Alexander. He played for Nebbie around 2000 was basically an H-back playing running back. Both are huge for their position and punishing runners and both ran with way too high of a pad level leading them to get upended when they could've gotten extra yardage. Alexander was really good though and I could see Coker being the same.
I really don't expect their passing game to drop off that much from last year. They still have McNutt (led the team last year in both receptions and yards), Davis (put up good numbers with the little playing time he had), Herman/Fiedorowicz (two big targets at tight end), and I think Vandenberg should be adequate at QB.
You must be better than Paki than, 'cause he didn't do so well.
I believe that outside of Oklahoma's back and maybe OSU's, Coker is the next biggest threat. I also think he will be one of the top 3 in the Big Ten. He's good. He's not incredibly explosive but he has good patience, good vision and is huge. He scares me to death because I think the game will hinge on his effectiveness. I don't think Iowa can beat us throwing the ball but if we can't stop him it won't matter.
Davis will have to step up in order for McNutt to avoid double coverage.
The "I could have run for 100 yards" is a figure of speech. Iowa's O-line DOMINATED ISU, period. There were holes a mile wide and Stanzi had 8 seconds in the pocket at times. A lot of running backs would have torn us up. It doesn't take anything away from Coker or Robinson to point out that they were playing behind great line production.
Someone tell me how this is "running high":
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUyUfLUjlkQ&feature=related]YouTube - coker bounce‏[/ame]
Not saying that he doesn't run a little high at times, but he was a freshmen, and I wouldn't say it is blatant.
As has already been mentioned, I don't think Iowa's RB's are as important as the OL this year. If the OL stays healthy, it won't matter who is running back is, Iowa will run the ball well.
Regarding the Rodney Coe comment: I personally think Iowa offered him at RB to get him "on the bus". I've read a number of scouting reports on Coe where some guys think he is a 1st round type talent at OLB. After watching both Mikail McCall & Jordan Canzeri's tape, as well as read the reports on them, I really think Coe would have been the 3rd best back in this years class - however, I was truly bummed he didn't qualify because I think he would have been an instant impact player on defense. He is attending Iowa Western the next two years, I am still hopeful he comes back to Iowa on the defensive side of the ball. Take a look at all 3 if you don't believe me, but I really think McCall/Canzeri are better RB prospects than Coe - Coe's elite offers (like of the Alabama variety) were at LB.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez2Q9_qlWx8&feature=related]YouTube - Rodney Coe Highlights‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ODXDNylRE]YouTube - Jordan Canzeri 2010 Offensive High School Highlights‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCV2mwVviAg&feature=fvwrel]YouTube - #28 Mika'il McCall‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUyUfLUjlkQ&feature=related]YouTube - coker bounce‏[/ame]
Not saying that he doesn't run a little high at times, but he was a freshmen, and I wouldn't say it is blatant.
As has already been mentioned, I don't think Iowa's RB's are as important as the OL this year. If the OL stays healthy, it won't matter who is running back is, Iowa will run the ball well.
Regarding the Rodney Coe comment: I personally think Iowa offered him at RB to get him "on the bus". I've read a number of scouting reports on Coe where some guys think he is a 1st round type talent at OLB. After watching both Mikail McCall & Jordan Canzeri's tape, as well as read the reports on them, I really think Coe would have been the 3rd best back in this years class - however, I was truly bummed he didn't qualify because I think he would have been an instant impact player on defense. He is attending Iowa Western the next two years, I am still hopeful he comes back to Iowa on the defensive side of the ball. Take a look at all 3 if you don't believe me, but I really think McCall/Canzeri are better RB prospects than Coe - Coe's elite offers (like of the Alabama variety) were at LB.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez2Q9_qlWx8&feature=related]YouTube - Rodney Coe Highlights‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0ODXDNylRE]YouTube - Jordan Canzeri 2010 Offensive High School Highlights‏[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCV2mwVviAg&feature=fvwrel]YouTube - #28 Mika'il McCall‏[/ame]
From what the coaches have said, Davis looked like a beast most of the spring, and after watching the spring game, I believed them....I'm worried about Iowa's #3 WR, but from what I've heard/seen, it looks like Davis really took that "next step" that was expected of him.
If Iowa's passing game has problems, it will likely be on Vandenberg (or WR injuries), because the 1/2 Iowa has at WR will keep defenses honest.
Vandenberg and injuries are the only two concerns I have for this offense in 2011....if Iowa gets lucky with injuries for once, and Vandenberg gets the game mentally as well as he does physically, Iowa will be a 10-2/9-3 type team....if Vandenberg does a Jake Christiansen impression, Iowa is looking at a 7-5 type year.
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I've seen enough Spring Ball All-Stars do jack in the regular season here in Ames that I'm not going to take this statement seriously. No offense.
Davis certainly might have made the next step, but we won't know until the season starts.
Not really related to the discussion, but for the sake of a good laugh I'm gonna just put this here...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sKhZJNhHk]Coker Pace[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9sKhZJNhHk]Coker Pace[/ame]
Davis hasn't been able to prove much yet because he has been stuck behind the best tandem of WR's Iowa has seen in quite some time (DJK, McNutt). Against Ball State (I know, I know, they're a bad MAC school), McNutt went down with an injury and Keenan came in and caught three passes on the very next drive. He finished with 4 catches for 50 yards and a TD. He also flashed signs of absolute brilliance in the spring game with numerous diving and one-handed catches.
Another thing that should not be overlooked is the importance of WR coach Erik Campbell. He is simply one of the best in the business, and with the talent Davis has shown (albeit in brief flashes), I think there is a very high chance he will be able to step up in a big way.
Furthermore, Davis has been able to develop quite the rapport with Vandenberg the last 2 seasons, as both have been on the 2nd team. Vandenberg has gone on record saying he has great chemistry with Keenan, and the rest of the receivers too. All these things factor into why there is a lot of optimism on the offensive side of the ball this year.
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coker is tough... im sure shone greene doing well in NFL doesnt hurt his chance at getting to the same place
Look, I'm not saying Davis won't be good. I'm saying he's unproven. No one knows if he'll be that good or not. You can predict it, but I read stuff like the things you guys are quoting all the time about players that don't end up doing squat.
You won't know if Davis can be that next level type player until he goes out and plays that way.
Good lord, you suggest the mere fallibility of a Hawkeye player and they jump down your throat.
No one is jumping down your throat, you're entitled to your opinion.
I simply stated why I believe Davis will make the jump and easily take advantage of a lot of one on one coverage this fall - if you take a wait and see approach, I more than understand that.
I just trust my eyes and what I've heard about him in practice....thus, my only concern for the hawkeye offense this season will be QB - I feel pretty confident everywhere else on the offensive side of the ball.
We just agree to disagree, that's all.
