Sporting News: OU and A&M may look at SEC

[weR138]

I havent been paying any attention to this "talk" this year.
But, if Okie and A&M leave, that doesnt mean the end of the Big 12 does it?
Could we replace them with a BYU and an Air Force in a jiffy? If so, I'd be ALL for that.
Id just assume not have to play Okie each year. I feel like we already have enough "ringers" on our schedule.

From what I understand Okie St and OU are every bit as tethered as UT and aTm. Aggie is stating the obvious which is that UT gets a better shake than the rest of us and since they have separate BOR I think with enough cajoling aTm could get free from the B12. That doesn't mean an SEC invite is imminent but I do think it means OU doesn't move w/o OSU. I'd like Boomer's take on this...

I'm interested in realignment but not worried about it. There is no way ISU ends up in a non AQ league.

 

[Al_4_State]

From what I understand Okie St and OU are every bit as tethered as UT and aTm. Aggie is stating the obvious which is that UT gets a better shake than the rest of us and since they have separate BOR I think with enough cajoling aTm could get free from the B12. That doesn't mean an SEC invite is imminent but I do think it means OU doesn't move w/o OSU. I'd like Boomer's take on this...

I'm interested in realignment but not worried about it. There is no way ISU ends up in a non AQ league.

I'm starting to believe this. We may end up in a league that is less profitable and prestigious (on the field) than the current Big 12, but it will have a BCS tie-in.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

If A&M wanted to do this with less political involvement the next 12-18 months is the time to do it with the Texas Legislature out (only meet once every two years). It would take Rick Perry calling a special session to intervene.

I don't think a move to the SEC is going to happen but threats to do so could keep Texas from putting HS games on their network.

 

[4429 mcc]

OU needs the state of Texas and UT....this is A&M trying spark a fire. A majority of OU's players are from Texas and play a lot of their games in the state of Texas. If they move conferences they lose that selling point to recruits.

 

[weR138]

I'm starting to believe this. We may end up in a league that is less profitable and prestigious (on the field) than the current Big 12, but it will have a BCS tie-in.

If the **** ever does hit the fan I think the forgotten five must have contingency plans or shame on us. ISU is clearly investing in it's football facilities at exactly the right time.

 

[acgclone]

I really can't understand why OU would ever want to leave...... Basically all they have to do each year is beat UT and they are B12 champs/BCS bound. Economically they are already laughing all the way to the bank.

A&M on the other hand will always be UT's b*tch, and that is the main reason they are upset.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

This notion of consolidating as many power schools into one conference as possible will fail for a simple reason: a new pecking order will be established, and some large, big name schools will become the new losers.

This is 100% on the money. OU has it great in the Big XII. They are going to make more money now, they have 1 game a year they need to win and that usually puts them in a BCS Bowl, and then they just need to avoid 1 or 2 potential upsets and they are golden. Jump to the SEC and then they will go through an absolute meat grinder of a schedule. Seriously.... who doesn't want to play LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, etc... in back to back to back to back weeks when instead you can have Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, etc....

OU goes to the SEC and they risk being 2 or 3 school's *****.

 

[gocubs2118]

OU needs the state of Texas and UT....this is A&M trying spark a fire. A majority of OU's players are from Texas and play a lot of their games in the state of Texas. If they move conferences they lose that selling point to recruits.

I don't really believe this. Were talking about Oklahoma, a top 10 program. They can get recruits wherever the hell they want.

 

[longtimeclone]

If A&M wanted to do this with less political involvement the next 12-18 months is the time to do it with the Texas Legislature out (only meet once every two years). It would take Rick Perry calling a special session to intervene.

I wouldn't put is past the Texas Legislature to meet and figure this out even before Rick picked up the phone.

 

[MNCyGuy]

If the NCAA allows high school games to be televised on that network then I am done with college athletics. That is far and away a major recruiting violation.

Depends. Does Texas actually own the network, or does ESPN? If the network is actually owned by ESPN and they are just paying Texas for third-tier and olympic sports rights to build the network on, I'm sure they're free to fill the rest of the programming schedule with whatever the hell they want. It's a little shady maybe, but I doubt it's illegal.

 

[weR138]

This is 100% on the money. OU has it great in the Big XII. They are going to make more money now, they have 1 game a year they need to win and that usually puts them in a BCS Bowl, and then they just need to avoid 1 or 2 potential upsets and they are golden. Jump to the SEC and then they will go through an absolute meat grinder of a schedule. Seriously.... who doesn't want to play LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, etc... in back to back to back to back weeks when instead you can have Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, etc....

OU goes to the SEC and they risk being 2 or 3 school's *****.

This year is a perfect example; if OU runs the table they're in the NCG and they don't have the possibility of being upset in a CCG.

If OU goes to the NC this season I think their entire fanbase will never give the SEC a second thought.

 

[ShockRerun]

OU needs the state of Texas and UT....this is A&M trying spark a fire. A majority of OU's players are from Texas and play a lot of their games in the state of Texas. If they move conferences they lose that selling point to recruits.

Schools like OU dont need the "You can play in your home state" pitch to get recruits. They say we are Oklahoma, we win... alot.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

Depends. Does Texas actually own the network, or does ESPN? If the network is actually owned by ESPN and they are just paying Texas for third-tier and olympic sports rights to build the network on, I'm sure they're free to fill the rest of the programming schedule with whatever the hell they want. It's a little shady maybe, but I doubt it's illegal.

NCAA's definition of booster:

A Booster is a represetative of the institution's athletic interests who is an individual or business known to have participated in any of the following:

1. Participated in or been a member of an organization promoting the university's athletics.
2. Contributing financially to the the school's athletic department or booster organization.
3. Arranged for or provided employment for enrolled student-athletes;
4. Assisted or has been requested to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes.
5. Assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or theif families
6. Participated as a varsity athlete
7. Been involved otherewise in promoting the universities atletics (includes season ticket holders).

Please be reminded that once an individual is identified as a representative of the institution's athletics interests" the individual or group retains that designation forever.

Aggie fans would point to # 1, 2, & 7 and want ESPN defined as a booster but as we know they are crazy and whiny.

 

[MNCyGuy]

Aggie fans would point to # 1, 2, & 7 and want ESPN defined as a booster but as we know they are crazy and whiny.

I don't really think #1 applies, and wouldn't #2 or #7 make ESPN a booster of any school that has had a game appear on their networks?

 

[4429 mcc]

Schools like OU dont need the "You can play in your home state" pitch to get recruits. They say we are Oklahoma, we win... alot.

The recruits OU goes after can go anywhere you think its strange that they are all from Texas and not California or Florida?

 

[CycloneErik]

The recruits OU goes after can go anywhere you think its strange that they are all from Texas and not California or Florida?

Right. It doesn't take a long look at their roster to see that they would be in trouble without recruiting Texas.

SoonerSports.com - Official Site of the Oklahoma Sooners

 

[ISUAgronomist]

I don't really think #1 applies, and wouldn't #2 or #7 make ESPN a booster of any school that has had a game appear on their networks?

Pretty much. I just wanted to show how illogical A&M fans' arguments are when discussing the LHN.

 

[gocubs2118]

The recruits OU goes after can go anywhere you think its strange that they are all from Texas and not California or Florida?

Ok and just because they leave the Big XII doesn't mean they still won't have success in recruiting players from Texas. Not to mention they then can start recruiting places like Florida. The bottom line is programs like OU can recruit anywhere they want.

 

[Cyclonestate78]

At the end of the day.... A&M needs to simply put a better product on the field rather then try to create instability within the conference and then bail like Nebraska did. If they are tired of getting their ***** handed to them by OU and Texas then they need to figure out how to stop opponents from scoring, score more points themselves, and then cash in on their success.

All A&M looks like now is a pathetic has been that is all but conceeding the fact that they can no longer compete on the football field or financially with the top teams in the Big XII. Rather then A&M fans speculating about the SEC creaming their shorts in excitement at the thought of the Aggies joining the SEC maybe they should start thinking a little more realistic. Going to the SEC will hurt them more then dealing with Texas in the Big XII. If they really want to succeed while escaping the beatdowns that Texas and OU hand them every year they should be thinking about a move to the WAC, MAC, C-USA, or the Mountain West.

 

[4429 mcc]

Here's the reason why OU will never leave the BigXII


7

Number of Big XII championships OU football has won.