*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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NATEizKING

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The state of Texas was expecting the Big 12 to survive when it let A&M leave. Now that this may not be the case, the state would be losing a lot more viewers given the time difference and visitors given the travel distances. The center of power would no longer be held in Texas.
 

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I think this whole thing makes Oklahoma look like a bunch of *******. Like a kid on the playground that agrees to the rules of a game, gets it butt kicked at it, cries, and then takes it's ball and goes home.

You agreed to the network deal. You were trying to get your own. No one wanted it so, what the heck, let's just destroy the whole conference. It's not Texas's fault no one wanted 24hour Sooner network.
 

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I think this whole thing makes Oklahoma look like a bunch of *******. Like a kid on the playground that agrees to the rules of a game, gets it butt kicked at it, cries, and then takes it's ball and goes home.

You agreed to the network deal. You were trying to get your own. No one wanted it so, what the heck, let's just destroy the whole conference. It's not Texas's fault no one wanted 24hour Sooner network.


This, and now the conference that they have been in forever just is not good enough for them anymore. Do they realize that they will have to play Oregon state? Washington State? just as much as they played ISU and KSU?

***** about Texas all you want but I'm more ****** off at OU. They should have some loyalty and have none. The Big 8/12 has been very good to them.
 

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I said it earlier in the thread but OU has just as much, if not more football success and tradition as Texas. But they are Texas's ***** - more than a&m. The aggies have the balls to break away and try it on their own. I don't think OU does. They want to talk tough and try to fool everyone into thinking they are major players when, in reality, they are just a bit player in this comedy.

The OU Sooners are really the OU Geldings. No balls.
 

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I disagree, I think this period of time will be looked back at as an "Experiment" kind of like prohibition. I do think we'll end up with 4x16 team conferences in the next 2 years and I think that its unlikely that ISU ends up in one of them, but definitely still possible. But in the long term, i don't think it matters. , I think the superconference will only last about 10 or maybe 15 years. What happens when Texas or any of the other historically big, successful schools gets into their new conference and doesn't like something that disadvantages them. You think they'll just sit by quietly and suddenly be "team players" You think A&M will be OK with 8 straight losing seasons in the SEC? You think USC and Stanford won't get sick of Texas the same way the big12 teams did?

I think it's highly unlikely that the 64 teams will suddenly all be happy with the new format and that'll be it for conference realignment forever. I think that one or more of the superconference will split in half within 12 years, and at that point, they'll go back to 8-12 team conference and when that happens a few teams that have been on the outside looking in during the superconference experiment will get back into major football.
In minor league baseball, they switch leagues left and right.
 

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Exactly. There is no proof that the deals garnered by bailing for the SEC/Pac-12 would be more lucrative then those obtained by maintaining a strong Big12, and no one (other than the Baylor study) has provided any information on the economic impact on the state of Texas of disbanding the Big 12. I hope the legislators do step in and force both UT and A&M to provide economic impact studies of what they planning to do, and show proof that bailing for the SEC/Pac-12 are better for the student-athletes and the state.
The survival of the Big 12 may be worth more than we think to Fox and ESPN and CBS if its collapse leads to 3-4 megaconferences.
 
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Boomer, don't take this personal because I like what you bring to the board and you seem like a great guy, but I wish OU and Texas nothing but the worst if you leave the Big 12.

This conference would be viable if OU and Texas are in it. They are choosing to leave a conference that has the potential to screw over universities that they have a had a athletic and academic relationship with for a long time, especially your Sooners.

Again, I'm not shooting the messenger but I hope both of you never sniff a BCS bowl again.
couldn't.agree.more. And I always liked OU but now I lump them with TAMmy. I'm in KC now and hanging with a lot of college football bettors and they switched to the TAMmy game. I hate them so bad that I took my drink and headed to another room. As for OU, yeah, you're right there with 'em.
 

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What if UT is simply trying to dilute the Big 12 of their strongest competitors? I can see a scenerio where they stay and raid the MWC and keep the league in tact with the auomatic BCS bid going to them on an almost annual basis( at least in their minds).
It may not be surefire. We even beat them last year.
 

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OU can act as tough as they want, but they would never do anything without Texas for the sole purpose of recruiting. Most of their best players come from Texas and losing that recruiting pipeline will cut their talent down quite a bit. They would never be bad under stoops, but I could see more 4 loss seasons...
 
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