***OFFICIAL IOWA STATE TO THE BIG EAST THREAD***

trajanJ

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If the SEC starts grabbing schools and the PAC goes to 16 do you really think the ACC and BIG are just going to sit there and watch? There won't be much left of the Big East after those conferences pick up who they want.
 

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Good point, but the Big East certainly delivers the vast majority of those markets.

NYC
D.C.
Pitt
Philly
Chicago
Milwaukee
Kansas City
Tampa

Those are easily delivered. Easy. You have a solid point when it comes to Dallas and Houston but just those 8 will land the Big East a hefty TV contract.

The Big East does not deliver Chicago.
 

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If the SEC starts grabbing schools and the PAC goes to 16 do you really think the ACC and BIG are just going to sit there and watch? There won't be much left of the Big East after those conferences pick up who they want.


Yeah, I really do expect them to wait and see how a 16 team league works out. Unless the SEC poaches an ACC team (which seems less likely given Mizzou will need a home), I don't see either the ACC or Big 10 expanding right now. SEC will sit pretty with 14 teams and the ACC and Big 10 will watch to see how a 16 and 14 team league do. The Big East will be the one who does the most adding this time around.
 

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If the SEC starts grabbing schools and the PAC goes to 16 do you really think the ACC and BIG are just going to sit there and watch? There won't be much left of the Big East after those conferences pick up who they want.

What if you send out invites to the party and no one comes. That is what is going to happen when conferences approach some of these teams. I think some are going to wait and see. You act like the conferences can just draft the teams.
 

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If the SEC starts grabbing schools and the PAC goes to 16 do you really think the ACC and BIG are just going to sit there and watch? There won't be much left of the Big East after those conferences pick up who they want.

The big 10 sat at 11 for 20 years. The pac stood at 10. The SEC\Big 12 were at 12. I dont get why some think that just because one or two go to one size, everyone else is magically going to follow suit, especially with a format that's never been tried at a major level, and utterly failed when tried in the WAC.
 

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The big 10 sat at 11 for 20 years. The pac stood at 10. The SEC\Big 12 were at 12. I dont get why some think that just because one or two go to one size, everyone else is magically going to follow suit, especially with a format that's never been tried at a major level, and utterly failed when tried in the WAC.

The media has brainwashed a lot of people into believing it. But there is no historical precedence for it. I will believe it when I see it.
 

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Agreed. But if the Big XII implodes, the Big East is our last shot at any real money.
My guess is $60M in Big 12 after new contract for athletic dept versus $30M for Big East after football expands. It will be night and day.
 
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The big 10 sat at 11 for 20 years. The pac stood at 10. The SEC\Big 12 were at 12. I dont get why some think that just because one or two go to one size, everyone else is magically going to follow suit, especially with a format that's never been tried at a major level, and utterly failed when tried in the WAC.
Thank you. This is where I get lost in the whole conversation. What is the incentive for a conference like the B10 to go to 16? "Everyone else is doing it" doesn't seem to be enough when you have the prominence of a conference like the B10. Is the B10 and its member schools going to be excluded from some future championship-determining bowl/playoff system if they don't see the value in expanding to 16 or 18 or X number of schools? Of course not.

Yeah, we're seeing a shakeup right now, but I'm not convinced that it's because there is some sudden urgency to form a new superconference structure. There has been and always will be movement between conferences. I'm just not buying into this superconference hysteria yet as it seems to be largely media-driven.
 
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Thank you. This is where I get lost in the whole conversation. What is the incentive for a conference like the B10 to go to 16? "Everyone else is doing it" doesn't seem to be enough when you have the prominence of a conference like the B10. Is the B10 and its member schools going to be excluded from some future championship-determining bowl/playoff system if they don't see the value in expanding to 16 or 18 or X number of schools? Of course not.

Yeah, we're seeing a shakeup right now, but I'm not convinced that it's because there is some sudden urgency to form a new superconference structure. There has been and always will be movement between conferences. I'm just not buying into this superconference hysteria yet as it seems to be largely media-driven.
How is your Edsel running these days?:jimlad:

If Big Ten wants to be premier, they need to follow the lead of the SEC and Pac 12. They need to get into gear.