*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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cyatheart

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It cracks me up when people act like experts on this. We're all just guessing and speculating at this point. You don't have any insider info about who the B10 is or isn't considering.

Unreal, Iowa State is NOT EVER going to the Big 10. They will stop at 12 or 14 before they invite Iowa State. We would be dilutive to the pie and they are not going to do that. I cannot understand why people do not get this.
 

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I haven't read all 730 pages of the thread but has anyone placed any blame on the original Big 8?

They kind of sold their soul to the devil in 1996 when they formed the Big 12 and invited Texas et all in to what was a stable league with an identity.

They broke up the old SWC and I don't remember too many ISU fans having too much sympathy for TCU, SMU, Houston, etc. Along the same lines, Baylor had no problem hitching a ride into the league back then...how can they whine when other schools hitch a ride out of the league 16 years later?

I think a lot of the blame needs to go to the founders of the Big 12 and their lack of progressive thinking relating to first class TV contracts. The league was constantly behind the times with football on tv and they are paying the ultimate price right now.
That was how we formed Enron.
 

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What about Duke, Maryland, UNC, Virgina? All have been mentioned as B10 candidates at some point.

No one is leaving the ACC now IMO. If you are in a stable league with geographical relevance, you are very likely to stay. The ACC will find money close the B1G. The post you initially quoted is correct. The Big Ten will not take anyone without AAU status simply because they don't have to.
 

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Unreal, Iowa State is NOT EVER going to the Big 10. They will stop at 12 or 14 before they invite Iowa State. We would be dilutive to the pie and they are not going to do that. I cannot understand why people do not get this.

Oh really? Would they be dilutive to the research pie? No one talks about that but there is so much more money in research than there is in football that it isn't even funny. That's not even to mention the obvious research partner we would have in just the Ag field in the Big Ten. ISU, Purdue, and MSU are all highly touted Ag schools. The Big Ten is different than other conferences. Sometimes for them, it isn't all about football.
 

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Oh really? Would they be dilutive to the research pie? No one talks about that but there is so much more money in research than there is in football that it isn't even funny. That's not even to mention the obvious research partner we would have in just the Ag field in the Big Ten. ISU, Purdue, and MSU are all highly touted Ag schools. The Big Ten is different than other conferences. Sometimes for them, it isn't all about football.


I hope you are right about that, but them adding NU last year doesn't really inspire confidence.
 

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Oh really? Would they be dilutive to the research pie? No one talks about that but there is so much more money in research than there is in football that it isn't even funny. That's not even to mention the obvious research partner we would have in just the Ag field in the Big Ten. ISU, Purdue, and MSU are all highly touted Ag schools. The Big Ten is different than other conferences. Sometimes for them, it isn't all about football.
Love to think you are on to something, BUT THERE HAS BEEN ZERO EVIDENCE OF THIS AS EVEN A REMOTE POSSIBILITY. The addition of Nebraska had ZERO to do with Academics. They even lost their AAU Affiliation recently...I hope I am wrong as this thread is long, but until something credible comes out that its even possible, I prefer not to even consider it.
 

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No one is leaving the ACC now IMO. If you are in a stable league with geographical relevance, you are very likely to stay. The ACC will find money close the B1G. The post you initially quoted is correct. The Big Ten will not take anyone without AAU status simply because they don't have to.

Again, this is all what you think. Don't state it like it's a fact.
 

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Unreal, Iowa State is NOT EVER going to the Big 10. They will stop at 12 or 14 before they invite Iowa State. We would be dilutive to the pie and they are not going to do that. I cannot understand why people do not get this.

They assume the B10 will "have" to go to 16 and have no other choice.
 

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I hope you are right about that, but them adding NU last year doesn't really inspire confidence.

Why not? At the time Nebraska was an AAU member, and while we at ISU like to make fun of them for that, their academics aren't nearly as bad as we make them out to be. They're not as good as ISU's, but they're not exactly OU, OSU, or K-State either.
 

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Love to think you are on to something, BUT THERE HAS BEEN ZERO EVIDENCE OF THIS AS EVEN A REMOTE POSSIBILITY. The addition of Nebraska had ZERO to do with Academics. They even lost their AAU Affiliation recently...I hope I am wrong as this thread is long, but until something credible comes out that its even possible, I prefer not to even consider it.

Where did I say that we were going to be invited to the Big Ten? Nowhere, didn't say that. I also didn't say they brought in Nebby on academics. I said they met the standard at the time.

There really isn't anything credible out there on any of these rumors. It's all hearsay except for the ACC stuff today I guess. It's all hypothetical and I don't understand how people will read doom with the idea that that is possible but something good happening to ISU is unreasonable.
 

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OK, let me know when they take someone other than ND without AAU status. I am anxiously waiting. Also, let me know when someone leaves the ACC.

Like they did with Nebraska? You think they had no idea they were about to lose their AAU membership?
 

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We will never know the answer to that, unfortunately, but the fact that 2 Big Ten members voted to oust NU leads me to beleive the Big Ten was well aware that NU's status in the AAU was tenuous at best.

Same two members wanted Pitt. I still don't know how Delaney got that through but he did.
 

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Unreal, Iowa State is NOT EVER going to the Big 10. They will stop at 12 or 14 before they invite Iowa State. We would be dilutive to the pie and they are not going to do that. I cannot understand why people do not get this.

I think there are several situations that would result in an ISU invite. One is the research angle that has already been discussed. THe other, and more probable, is if the other 3 major conferences go to 16 teams and approach the Big10 and say, look, we want to redo the BCS conference layout with our 4 conferences getting 2 bids each (or a tournament format of some sort). and in redoing the current layout, all of our conferences stand to add $50M/year. But we need you to have 16 teams or else it's not fair for our conferences since we have 16, can you expand?
 
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