*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[Judoka]

Delaney only needed to hurry to secure high value prospects. There are only so many in play. Why hurry to add rutgers? If they wanted them, he is arrogant enough to think he could get them, even if they were in acc.

They would not have to scramble to get us. They could wait a decade and we would still be here, waiting for the invite. Hopefully by then, Hoiberg has a couple final four banners from the roof!

Of course, with ten years of non-BCS money or recruiting we will be even less attractive than we are now.

 

[im4cyclones]

Of course, with ten years of non-BCS money or recruiting we will be even less attractive than we are now.

And to a lesser man, that would be a problem. Good for both of us that Hoiberg is NOT a lesser man.
:smile:

 

[ripvdub]

Have these conferences seen uconn, rutgers, pitt etc. play football? Rutgers had a few good years with ray rice, but are they.anything more than just a warm body?

 

[ThatllDoCy]

These are crazy days we are living in, and maybe the craziest thing is that Notre Dame is not going to join a conference. Not until a Conference Championship gets them into a playoff and that is the only way they get a National Championship. Until then independence is part of their culture and they will not change. It helps them feel like they are better than everyone else.

This is getting nuts.

 

[Judoka]

And to a lesser man, that would be a problem. Good for both of us that Hoiberg is NOT a lesser man.
:smile:

It's not Basketball I'm worried about. For example, if the Big East somehow survived and we went there I'm sure Fred wouldn't miss a beat. It's football that concerns me, since football is driving all of this.

 

[CyFan61]

Let's cross our fingers...

 

[Trainer]

And.....the sky is falling.

 

[DSM4Cy]

Let's cross our fingers...

This would be the best long-term solution for all 16 of those universities AND for the B1G as a whole IMO. While each school might take a short-term revenue hit, the league would be the most geographically cohesive power conference (maybe the ACC?) and would be loaded from top-to-bottom with great universities.

Am I crazy? This would be awesome. We keep historic rivalries from the Big 8 (KU, MU, NU), have Iowa as a conference rival (awesome), and get to start tons of new geographic rivalries (MN, Wisc, IL) all while moving to the best academic power conference in the country. Why not think this could be an option?

 

[digZ]

This would be the best long-term solution for all 16 of those universities AND for the B1G as a whole IMO. While each school might take a short-term revenue hit, the league would be the most geographically cohesive power conference (maybe the ACC?) and would be loaded from top-to-bottom with great universities.

Am I crazy? This would be awesome. We keep historic rivalries from the Big 8 (KU, MU, NU), have Iowa as a conference rival (awesome), and get to start tons of new geographic rivalries (MN, Wisc, IL) all while moving to the best academic power conference in the country. Why not think this could be an option?

Remove Kansas and ISU and the B1G would make more money, and still have a great conference with enough members. Maybe I'm just being a debbie downer but I see no way we make it into the B1G unless it involves some amount of legal wrangling. Don't see KU there either.

 

[Trainer]

Remove Kansas and ISU and the B1G would make more money, and still have a great conference with enough members. Maybe I'm just being a debbie downer but I see no way we make it into the B1G unless it involves some amount of legal wrangling. Don't see KU there either.

Yeah I agree, I just don't see it happening unless they are forced to keep up with others in a 16 team race.

 

[DSM4Cy]

Remove Kansas and ISU and the B1G would make more money, and still have a great conference with enough members. Maybe I'm just being a debbie downer but I see no way we make it into the B1G unless it involves some amount of legal wrangling. Don't see KU there either.

I agree in some ways. I think it's unlikely. However, where do you put US in a BCS-caliber league when this is all said and done? I think there are too many legal ramifications, especially with the Big XII TV contracts, for ANY school (except TCU as they're just moving up next year) currently in a BCS league to end up in some lower-level conference. Especially with ISU's stature as a university compared to Texas Tech/Okla St/others. If we are left out somehow, watch Harkin/Grassley. NCAA anti-trust hearings will be happening. The whole thing will become a HUGE mess that most people don't want to deal with.

So yes, I do somewhat expect legal wrangling, I guess. And because of that, I think we have to end up SOMEWHERE in a power conference. Where else other than the Big Ten, now that the Big East looks to be going down the drain?

 

[CarrollCyclone]

Boyz II Men, ACC, BBD: The Atlantic Coast Family Looks to Add Pitt and Syracuse (and What it Means for Texas, Notre Dame and the Big Ten) « FRANK THE TANK’S SLANT

 

[CarrollCyclone]

ACC has approved addition of Pittsburgh, Syracuse – USATODAY.com

 

[BenEClone]

"Come Monday, we might be looking at a completely different college sports world."

If Pitt and Cuse are confirmed, all the realignment bs will fall into place pretty quickly and we can lay the monster thread to rest. I trust our leadership has beem juggling the myriad of possibilities.

 

[helechopper]

The way the ACC is moving it seems to me that the big boys have decided how to carve up the Big East and Big XII. All we need is for the ACC to take UConn and Rutgers, then OK & TX schools bolt, and we're free to waltz right into the B1G.

 

[helechopper]

This whole thing is going to be a cluster f&#% wrapped in a turd, immersed in a big bowl full of wtf...

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel



Just filed to the NYT a story about Congress taking interest in realignment. Congressman told me involvement "may be unavoidable."

 

[drednot57]

ISU better get their stadium to 70k since football is driving this and that's the size the big ten prefers

Really?! What's the capacity of Northwestern's stadium, 35K. Indiana's, 55K? I need to re-google this info.

 

[CloneAbuse]

This whole thing is going to be a cluster f&#% wrapped in a turd, immersed in a big bowl full of wtf...

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel



Just filed to the NYT a story about Congress taking interest in realignment. Congressman told me involvement "may be unavoidable."

Time to question the tax-exempt status of the good ol boy football league...that would be the GOBFL to you good ol tv sets....er fans....

 

[bosco]

This whole thing is going to be a cluster f&#% wrapped in a turd, immersed in a big bowl full of wtf...

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel



Just filed to the NYT a story about Congress taking interest in realignment. Congressman told me involvement "may be unavoidable."

Boy I thought the posturing by conference chairmen is pathetic. Wait until these yahoos get their hat into the ring.

 

[alarson]

Time to question the tax-exempt status of the good ol boy football league...that would be the GOBFL to you good ol tv sets....er fans....

Even without that, congress very well should have a voice at the table when these decisions are being made considering how many tax dollars are sunk into public institutions every year, and when these institutions are making decisions that could have hugely damaging effects on other public institutions purely for athletic reasons, there comes a time for congress to step up and say something.