*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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ripvdub

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now people tweeting texas to pac 12

But the only link of a story is to Texas' 24/7sports pay website
 

Cyclophile1

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and if anyone answers $$$ that is BS. Once Tier 1 in the B12 is renegotiated it will be close the the PAC and with the extra travel costs associated with a PAC move the B12 would probably be favorable from a financial standpoint.

Doesn't it make more sense for OU and UT to just come to an accommodation on the LHN and hold the BigXII together? UT has to know that the LHN is not going to be allowed by ANY other conference in its current form, so why not just allow it be turned into a Big12South network with some kind of content and revenue split?

With renewed commitments from OU and UT, we can pick up Louisville, BYU and a third team acceptable to everyone and still be a big-time conference. Isn't that preferable to the chaos that will commence from this point?
 

Trice

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OK what we know

1 Pittsburgh and Syracuse are in the ACC
2 Texas A&M is heading to the SEC
3 OU and Texas have BOR meetings monday to decide what conference they will be in
4 The Big 12 TV deal is better than what the Big East has
5 There is a gentlemans agreement between the SEC schools that it won't add another school from a state that has an SEC team in it already

What else am I missing?

#s 1-4 are facts. #5 isn't worth the paper it (isn't) printed on.

The mistake people are making now is in assuming that logic and reason will govern how this process plays out in all conferences. Thanks to the ACC we're now in scramble mode, where everyone sees everyone else making moves toward superconferences and scrambles to make moves of their own so as not to be left behind.

Geographic/cultural fit, academics, and even to some degree finances are certainly taking a backseat now - they always have but even more so today - to just finding a suitable partner.

It's a lot like trying to hook up at a bar. You may think you know what you want and won't settle, but when the bartender says "last call" suddenly standards are out the window.
 

leroycyclone

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Re: Big XII needs a New Commissioner

The current leadership is twiddling their thumbs while other conferences poach our members. We should have been the ones doing the poaching all along.

Beebe, Geoffrey, Deaton and others have been very quiet. That's their style. That's a good style.

The ACC was quiet and look at the earthquake they started.
 

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#s 1-4 are facts. #5 isn't worth the paper it (isn't) printed on.

The mistake people are making now is in assuming that logic and reason will govern how this process plays out in all conferences. Thanks to the ACC we're now in scramble mode, where everyone sees everyone else making moves toward superconferences and scrambles to make moves of their own so as not to be left behind.

Geographic/cultural fit, academics, and even to some degree finances are certainly taking a backseat now - they always have but even more so today - to just finding a suitable partner.

It's a lot like being trying to hook up at a bar. You may think you know what you want and won't settle, but when the bartender says "last call" suddenly standards are out the window.

We might be scramble mode but I doubt the sec or b10 is. The sec could still get Florida State, if they wanted. The new acc isn't about to change that. The acc did this to be proactive in case a team left.

The sec and b10 will move when they are ready. The PAC will probably jump at anyone they can get. Adding Utah and Colorado last year left some egg on Larry Scott's face. If OU or UT were to go east, he would be screwed, as far as expansion goes.
 

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We might be scramble mode but I doubt the sec or b10 is. The sec could still get Florida State, if they wanted. The new acc isn't about to change that. The acc did this to be proactive in case a team left.

The sec and b10 will move when they are ready. The PAC will probably jump at anyone they can get. Adding Utah and Colorado last year left some egg on Larry Scott's face. If OU or UT were to go east, he would be screwed, as far as expansion goes.

Twitter is really heating up, saying Texas to PAC is done. Always hard to tell if multiple people have confirmed it themselves or if it's just one big media circle jerk.

EDIT: also just saw a report from Andy Katz saying UConn is aggressively seeking entry into the ACC.
 

im4cyclones

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Twitter is really heating up, saying Texas to PAC is done. Always hard to tell if multiple people have confirmed it themselves or if it's just one big media circle jerk.

Isn't that what this whole thing has been?? Stuff gets re-tweeted so much no one knows where it comes from.
 

CONEClone

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Twitter is really heating up, saying Texas to PAC is done. Always hard to tell if multiple people have confirmed it themselves or if it's just one big media circle jerk.

EDIT: also just saw a report from Andy Katz saying UConn is aggressively seeking entry into the ACC.

Just like the Big 12 South to the PAC was a done deal last year? :rolleyes:

I'm really sick of Twitter.
 

benjay

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We'll land in the best possible position with Pollard and Geoffroy in charge. Unfortunately it will certainly be a step down if Texas and/or OU bails.
 

cyfanatic

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We'll land in the best possible position with Pollard and Geoffroy in charge. Unfortunately it will certainly be a step down if Texas and/or OU bails.

Not directed at you personally benjay...but that is the comment that wears on me! Is ISU's position (geography, financially...others?) so poor that it was inevitable that we might be heading to a lesser conference in college athletics? I would have hoped our AD had built our athletic program to a point where we would be desired by others (realistic that is...knowing we would never be UT, OU or others of that caliber). JP has been here long enough to create an athletic department that meets his vision...and if he has been effective in meeting that vision...this is what it gets us?

That said...I know this whole process is not over yet...hoping for something good/great to happen for us!
 
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