*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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acgclone

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That's the most puzzling thing for me, too.

There doesn't appear to be anything "in it" for OU, particularly if Texa$ goes along.

Basically this whole thing appears to be a big F-YOU to Texas. Nebraska last year. Then A&M. Now OU.
 

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I think Texas, TT and OSU are leaving because Oklahoma wants to leave. Why OU wants to leave IDK

Maybe this is all a misunderstanding? OU wants to leave because they think Texas wants to. Texas wants to leave because OU wants to.

This will likely end with one of the teams sprinting through the airport, hoping to catch the other before they get on that plane heading to far-away land forever. Luckily, through the actions of a few romantic TSA agents, they will be able to reunite just in time. They will share a passionate kiss, and the airport will clap enthusiastically. ISU, Mizzou and the others will smile, and hug. All will be well...
 

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Aren't you required to maintain a certain number of sports to be a Div. I program?

Perhaps I misunderstood and they were talking about priority level of funding. Men's golf and the others would exist but they would be cut to the bone first. I guess I didn't ask to clarify. My mistake.
 

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The only thing I wonder is because A&M left that means only OU had a chance to stand up to Texas and they knew it wouldn't matter what they tried Texas wanted to do what was best for texas regardless. So Oklahoma wants to go to Pac 12 knows Texas likely will go along so the keep their rivary but not Texas is not king anymore they are just 1 school out of 16
 

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So chances that ESPN has been over-hyping this type of story and spinning it to try to make the Big XII fall apart are? Because they stand to make a hell of a lot of money with one less conference to pay each year.
 

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So chances that ESPN has been over-hyping this type of story and spinning it to try to make the Big XII fall apart are? Because they stand to make a hell of a lot of money with one less conference to pay each year.

That seems to open them up pretty well to some lawsuits for causing the league to fail.
 

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Since when did the NSF base who it is going to fund on the athletics conference of a university? Or the USDA, DOE, or anyone else funding ISU for that matter? People say we will lose research dollars, but I don't believe it. Sure, we may lose undergrads, but you know what the means we have to do? Bring in more grad students and turn the labs they work in into grant winning machines. Having the DOE facility on campus is a huge thing that isn't going to go away if ISU drops out of the Big XII. Having all the ag money donated isn't going to go away, we still have the vet school. I really don't see where this supposed loss of research money comes from,other than people that actually believe their undergrad tuition pays for research.


It probably doesn't happen immediately but is more of a gradual decline. And I'm not plugged in enough on the academic side to know how much money might really be at stake.

But I can say with 100% certainty that if the perception of the quality of the university suffers by dropping down to a lesser conference - fairly or unfairly, your perceived quality is partly based on the company you keep - then it will become tougher to recruit top-flight faculty.

THAT is when you lose research dollars.
 

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The New Big 8
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Baylor
TCU
BYU
USF

+$100,000,000 from exit fees.

Could this work?
 

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Not exactly sure.
So chances that ESPN has been over-hyping this type of story and spinning it to try to make the Big XII fall apart are? Because they stand to make a hell of a lot of money with one less conference to pay each year.


If you look at it that way, the LHN is supposed to be absorbed one way or another into the PAC network. OU was looking for $5MM for theirs and ESPN would get them for free then.
 

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The New Big 8
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Kansas State
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Baylor
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USF

+$100,000,000 from exit fees.

Could this work?

BYU is going to be desperate to get into an automatic qualifying conference now. They picked a bad time to go independent, IMO.
 

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The New Big 8
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Baylor
TCU
BYU
Louisville

+$100,000,000 from exit fees.

Could this work?

I'd like to see Cincy and UCF/USF/ECU in there too.

I think we might see an attempt at it. If we can get an ok TV deal, slightly less money and greater parity, the schools might agree.

It could be a weaker AQ football league, and a hell of a basketball league.
 

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I'd like to see Cincy and UCF/USF/ECU in there too.

I think we might see an attempt at it. If we can get an ok TV deal, slightly less money and greater parity, the schools might agree.

It could be a weaker AQ football league, and a hell of a basketball league.
If there really are 100,000,000 in exit fees and this conference is interim until the big 10 and SEC complete their process, then smaller is better, fewer mouths to feed AND if we have money for relevance for a few years the schools in a small but cash flush conference will be better positioned for the final round...
 

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The New Big 8
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Baylor
TCU
BYU
USF

+$100,000,000 from exit fees.

Could this work?

Throw in Memphis, Cinci, Houston and Louisville. You have a great MBB conference and wider footprint.
 

aeroclone

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The New Big 8
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Missouri
Baylor
TCU
BYU
USF

+$100,000,000 from exit fees.

Could this work?

Bah, all this new conference talk is nonsense. This conference would be so second rate compared to the new superconferences it wouldn't even be funny. We would be the Mountain West of the Midwest. Eventually, we would get shut out of the BCS or the playoff or whatever it is that gets setup, and the gap between us and the other schools would grow. We have three options now as I see them. Save the Big 12 with OU and UT, join the B1G, or die as an AD. The backup plan to merge with the Big East seems to be off the table, as it doesn't look like there is going to be much of a Big East left.
 
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