*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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Right now, it doesn't stack up.

But take a look at the direction these programs are going. Baylor, SMU, UCF, Cincy, and USF were all terrible programs 5 years ago.

-Baylor is one of the more exciting teams in the Big 12 and has improved immensely
-SMU has resurrected its program and could win 9-10 games this year
-Cincy struggled the past two years but played in a BCS game in 2009
-USF didn't have a football program 15 years ago and are playing in bowl games and consistently winning 7-10 games
-UCF has played in bowl games recently and sent a lot of players to the NFL. Plus they have only been a 1-A program for 10 years.

TCU won the Rose Bowl last year

The only team that probably doesn't fit is Memphis but given their success in basketball and the fact that it is a decent market in that area along with the 10 million bucks FEDex would pony up, I think they could fit.

I would argue that it would be a very strong conference especially when recruits see some of those programs being a part of a major conference.

I agree it would be a solid conference. A lot of people have the same mistaken perception about ISU as we do about some of those directional/city schools. They have things to offer as well. It'll be hard to stack up against those other confernces, but it's not like we have a hard time stacking up as it is right now as an individual school in the Big 12.
 

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Why would OSU call a special regents meeting to say they are staying in the Big 12? For everyone who says the Big 12 will stay together....here is the writing on the wall that it won't.

OU and OSU are as good as gone.
 

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Why would OSU call a special regents meeting to say they are staying in the Big 12? For everyone who says the Big 12 will stay together....here is the writing on the wall that it won't.

OU and OSU are as good as gone.


As a moderator, you should learn to express your opinions as opinions, not as facts. You believe OU and OSU are on their way out, and you very well could be right, but you're only guessing based on the evidence you see.

The Regents meeting today is to simply approve authorization for the Boren to make all decisions regarding OU's conference realignment. I'm guessing it's really nothing more that than - just a formality that is required to take place. I'm also guessing that the purpose of Wednesday's meeting is to set aside a time for a detailed discussion between Boren and the Regents, at least that's what I'm hoping for.
 

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Why would OSU call a special regents meeting to say they are staying in the Big 12? For everyone who says the Big 12 will stay together....here is the writing on the wall that it won't. OU and OSU are as good as gone.
OSU and OU have separate regents that is why OSU is having a meeting.
 

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Why would OSU call a special regents meeting to say they are staying in the Big 12? For everyone who says the Big 12 will stay together....here is the writing on the wall that it won't.

OU and OSU are as good as gone.

I still think OU and OSU are bluffing to get UT to go with them...I really doubt the Pac wants those two on their own.

I think UT needs to tell them "go ahead and we'll decide by years end"...see what happens.

My guess is that OU / OSU would stop because they know that the Pac isn't ready to add the OK market and two schools that don't add to their academic profile and very few TV sets.

The only fear for UT would be KU / MU going to the Pac as a replacement.

I don't see that happening though.
 

Cyclonestate78

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I still think OU and OSU are bluffing to get UT to go with them...I really doubt the Pac wants those two on their own.

I think UT needs to tell them "go ahead and we'll decide by years end"...see what happens.

My guess is that OU / OSU would stop because they know that the Pac isn't ready to add the OK market and two schools that don't add to their academic profile and very few TV sets.

The only fear for UT would be KU / MU going to the Pac as a replacement.

I don't see that happening though.

I don't think OU is bluffing...

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OU/OSU aren't bluffing. Larry Scott wants the OU brand badly for football, yes we arent a big market but we are the bluest of blue bloods in the sport.

This WILL work out for ISU. The only one who should be nervous is Baylor. Your AAU status is huge
 

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Either the Big 12 or the Big East was going to implode, it now looks like the Big East. Let's just figure out who wants in the Big 12 and who wants out and fill it back up.

If OU and OSU leave I am fine with adding TCU, UL, and Cin and whoever else makes since from the Big East.

Who the heck knows! This is getting stupid! I would like to know how many OU fans stayed up to watch the Arizona Stanford game last night? They better get used to staying up late!
Just as many fans as watched the Tulsa game.
 

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I still think OU and OSU are bluffing to get UT to go with them...I really doubt the Pac wants those two on their own.

I think UT needs to tell them "go ahead and we'll decide by years end"...see what happens.

My guess is that OU / OSU would stop because they know that the Pac isn't ready to add the OK market and two schools that don't add to their academic profile and very few TV sets.

The only fear for UT would be KU / MU going to the Pac as a replacement.

I don't see that happening though.

OU wanted to go last year. Yes, Oklahoma is a small state population wise, but like Nebraska, Oklahoma is a national brand that will generate PAC-12 interest and coverage in the Central & Eastern portions of the country.
 

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OU/OSU aren't bluffing. Larry Scott wants the OU brand badly for football, yes we arent a big market but we are the bluest of blue bloods in the sport.

This WILL work out for ISU. The only one who should be nervous is Baylor. Your AAU status is huge

KU and ISU to the Pac?

*edit* Can someone explain why the Pac wants Okie Lite?
 
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Cyclonestate78

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OU/OSU aren't bluffing. Larry Scott wants the OU brand badly for football, yes we arent a big market but we are the bluest of blue bloods in the sport.

This WILL work out for ISU. The only one who should be nervous is Baylor. Your AAU status is huge

OU's lack of loyalty will serve them well in the PAC whatever. I hope they crash and burn. :yes:
 

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I still think OU and OSU are bluffing to get UT to go with them...I really doubt the Pac wants those two on their own.

I think UT needs to tell them "go ahead and we'll decide by years end"...see what happens.

My guess is that OU / OSU would stop because they know that the Pac isn't ready to add the OK market and two schools that don't add to their academic profile and very few TV sets.

The only fear for UT would be KU / MU going to the Pac as a replacement.

I don't see that happening though.

If UT stays the 7 remaining schools get 60mill to split or do would they use that to help teams they are courting with their buyouts?
 

Wesley

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Looks like I may be a fan of college sports for one more season. I have no interest in super conferences that are paying players. Might as well set up schools as farm systems for NFL teams.
The Omaha Nighthawks drew only 15k for $15 a ticket in a beautiful stadium. This may drive pro football to greater heights. What happens if more than half the country stopped caring about Alabama or Auburn games because their home team is in an alkso ran group. Do the UNi fans care what Alabama is doing?
 

weR138

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Don't tease me! While I understand most would complain about the time zone difference and so on...I would love this to happen!

I'm just playing but think about it;

OU/OSU + UT/TTU = two states and two academically suspect schools

OU/UT/KU/MU actually makes more sense (hate to say it).
 

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OU/OSU aren't bluffing. Larry Scott wants the OU brand badly for football, yes we arent a big market but we are the bluest of blue bloods in the sport.

This WILL work out for ISU. The only one who should be nervous is Baylor. Your AAU status is huge

So we get to be that pasty-white kid on the end of the bench whose sole purpose is to give the starters a run in practice and to keep the team GPA up? I'll take it.
 
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Die4Cy

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I don't believe there are any special deals to make everyone whole. The quotes given by officials on public reports have walked this thing too far to believe there will be a walk back.

OU is not our best friend in this. OU is the one with the grenade, saying, "atm, NU, and Colorado are real ******** aren't they? Here hold this for me, would ya bud?" as they walk out the door.

As long as ISU remains in an AQ program and can continue to build what we've started here, I will be so relieved when these ****sticks are no longer around to wreck things for everyone else.
 
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