Notre Dame to the ACC?

[edr247]

Part of me thinks this is ND acting out of spite towards the B1G. Part of me thinks it's some sort of move for leverage in the off chance they actually do want to join us.

I think ND would be comfortable with the schools in the ACC, tbh. Notre Dame may be in favor of joining the conference due to the strong research links, but I think ideology may also get involved (embryonic stem cell research, for one). /shrugs

 

[goldmember]

ISU needs ND in the Big 10, because we need a school that brings in enough additional revenue to the league to off set what ISU would take so the current member schools don't make less money then they are now.

 

[CTTB78]

How can ND be forced to give up independent status?

 

[bawbie]

ISU needs ND in the Big 10, because we need a school that brings in enough additional revenue to the league to off set what ISU would take so the current member schools don't make less money then they are now.

I'm not sure what makes anybody think a conference will ever have enough money, given the current mentality. If the decision is made solely on money, ISU is never getting in the B1G.

If they decide that regionalness and academics is important, then we have a chance.

Which is another way of saying we are never getting into the B1G.

 

[tm3308]

The word from a few Hawk fans down in ACC country (FWIW) is that the general opinion down there is that this is just misinformation. Perhaps Notre Dame is looking to stall the ACC from picking off more Big East teams so that they can get their own house in order first. Because if they don't find a better deal before the Big East loses more teams, they wouldn't have any leverage with the Big Ten.

That's the theory, anyway.

 

[bawbie]

How can ND be forced to give up independent status?

If the NCAA or whatever replaces the NCAA doesn't offer a realistic path to a national championship for independents.

 

[Wesley]

Big 10...

However, I'm personally at the point where ESPN has no creditability in their reporting. I think people put way too much stock into the crap they are spewing out...

Somewhere in the back of my mind I tend to wonder if ESPN with their planned reporting are trying to screw everyone into a 64 team behemouth to get out of paying the bowls their payoff money.

 

[MNCyGuy]

The word from a few Hawk fans down in ACC country (FWIW) is that the general opinion down there is that this is just misinformation. Perhaps Notre Dame is looking to stall the ACC from picking off more Big East teams so that they can get their own house in order first. Because if they don't find a better deal before the Big East loses more teams, they wouldn't have any leverage with the Big Ten.

That's the theory, anyway.

I don't get why they would care. They'll just dump there non-football teams into whatever Catholic schools spin-off results from this.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

The word from a few Hawk fans down in ACC country (FWIW) is that the general opinion down there is that this is just misinformation. Perhaps Notre Dame is looking to stall the ACC from picking off more Big East teams so that they can get their own house in order first. Because if they don't find a better deal before the Big East loses more teams, they wouldn't have any leverage with the Big Ten.

That's the theory, anyway.

Why would ND need any (more) leverage with the Big 10? They have all they need: not interested.
If ND joins any conference, it will be the ACC. Why would they limit themselves to the Big 10? And the Big 10's open pleading for ND gives ND all the leverage to join when and where they want.

 

[Wesley]

The word from a few Hawk fans down in ACC country (FWIW) is that the general opinion down there is that this is just misinformation. Perhaps Notre Dame is looking to stall the ACC from picking off more Big East teams so that they can get their own house in order first. Because if they don't find a better deal before the Big East loses more teams, they wouldn't have any leverage with the Big Ten.

That's the theory, anyway.

clarkbutterfingers @ twitterville:
The ND plane has been confirmed to be headed to Oakland today.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

I don't get why they would care. They'll just dump there non-football teams into whatever Catholic schools spin-off results from this.

Yup, the Catholic league

 

[WalkingCY]

How can ND be forced to give up independent status?

I feel that has never been explained either. ND is probably just looking at the ACC for other sports besides FB, (i.e. Basketball). I believe they will never have to join a conference in FB.

ND can and will continue to sched. anyone they want. Also, they always have a strong enough sched. with whom they play each and every year anyway....so if they do have a successful season they will still be invited to any bowl game or if a tournament were to begin, they would be invited to that as well...(pending record of course.)

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

I posted this in the other thread, but was wondering the CBS story the other day referenced that government intervention was all but assured if teams are left behind. Reading the Wall Street Journal with the list out outliers, would Baylor, ISU, Louisville, BYU, Cincy, South Florida, and TCU have enough clout to force the hand of more college expansion to include these teams?

 

[tm3308]

Why would ND need any (more) leverage with the Big 10? They have all they need: not interested.
If ND joins any conference, it will be the ACC. Why would they limit themselves to the Big 10? And the Big 10's open pleading for ND gives ND all the leverage to join when and where they want.

If super-conferences take shape, there likely isn't going to be room in college football for independents anymore. Not if you're going to be taken seriously, anyway.

If ND joins the ACC, I hope the Big Ten blacklists them. No more games with Michigan, Michigan State, or Purdue.

 

[ISUCY23]

Just thinking out loud here, but I don't see this as great news for Iowa State.

I don't think it's entirely bad. But not great. Reason being, if Iowa State was ever going to sneak into the Big Ten, it would be because they've added some tremendous value (Notre Dame or Texas) and that money was no longer a worry.

If the Big Ten whiffs on Notre Dame and Texas, then acquiring more valuable properties (hate to use that word but that's basically what we're talking about here) even more important. Unfortunately, Iowa State isn't considered to be valuable.

Who knows? This crap all changes by the minute anyway. Just my two cents.

I hadn't really thought of it in that way, but this defiantly makes me feel like it would be a bad thing

 

[WalkingCY]

If super-conferences take shape, there likely isn't going to be room in college football for independents anymore. Not if you're going to be taken seriously, anyway.

If ND joins the ACC, I hope the Big Ten blacklists them. No more games with Michigan, Michigan State, or Purdue.

Yeah, that'll happen. What is this whole conference upgrade thingy about again? Oh, $$$$.

Mich, MSU and Purdon't will continue to sched. ND. As will anyone that they wish to play.

What does ND bring to each and every contest they are in? $$$$

ND does not have to join a conference in FB. My guess is that they are looking to take care of their other sports in the ACC.

 

[Clark]

Why would ND need any (more) leverage with the Big 10? They have all they need: not interested.
If ND joins any conference, it will be the ACC. Why would they limit themselves to the Big 10? And the Big 10's open pleading for ND gives ND all the leverage to join when and where they want.

Interesting. I thought that if ND were to join any conference it would be the Big 12? At least, that's what people were telling me a couple weeks ago.

The Big 10 isn't expanding now without ND. When their ESPN deal is up after 2015 they may look at it depending on how the 16 team conferences work out.

 

[Clark]

If super-conferences take shape, there likely isn't going to be room in college football for independents anymore. Not if you're going to be taken seriously, anyway.

If ND joins the ACC, I hope the Big Ten blacklists them. No more games with Michigan, Michigan State, or Purdue.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, that'll happen. What is this whole conference upgrade thingy about again? Oh, $$$$.

Mich, MSU and Purdon't will continue to sched. ND. As will anyone that they wish to play.

What does ND bring to each and every contest they are in? $$$$

ND does not have to join a conference in FB. My guess is that they are looking to take care of their other sports in the ACC.

Yeah, I don't foresee ND playing all those schools once they have at minimum 8 conference games in the ACC. Also, why would the ACC take ND in other sports? All it would do is create an odd number of teams and it does nothing but create a headache for the conference.

 

[WalkingCY]

Yeah, I don't foresee ND playing all those schools once they have at minimum 8 conference games in the ACC. Also, why would the ACC take ND in other sports? All it would do is create an odd number of teams and it does nothing but create a headache for the conference.

The Big East didn't seem to have a problem with a random number of teams for Basketball the past couple of years, perhaps this is what the ACC is willing to do in hoops by adding ND.... ND hoops would be big for the ACC. Again, ND = $$$$$ even in hoops.

 

[Clark]

The Big East didn't seem to have a problem with a random number of teams for Basketball the past couple of years, perhaps this is what the ACC is willing to do in hoops by adding ND.... ND hoops would be big for the ACC. Again, ND = $$$$$ even in hoops.

You understand the Big East is now basically dead right?

You think that might have had something to do with half of their schools not playing football in the Big East?