*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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CrossCyed

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Well....that's not really a surprise is it? Can either capture the couch-burning market of Morgantown, or both of St. Louis and Kansas City.
 

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No, this is what you hope is going to happen. Every hawk fan is wishing for the demise of the Big 12. My read on the whole thing is that if the revenue plane is leveled, and the exit fee is increased, they will stay. If those two things happen, what makes you think this conference is less stable than the Big 10? You are giddy with excitement over this like all the other hawks. Stay out of this thread.

If Texas were willing to make those concessions, that would stabilize the Big 12. It remains to be seen if they're willing to do that though.
 
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I sure as hell wouldn't say yes or no until I knew where the conference was heading.
 

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I just realized this massive thread can be described by a simple mathematical function.

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Actually, I think this one is more fitting... y=SEC(x):

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Wesley

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Ultimately, I think OU has to be thinking "this thing is going to blow up eventually, why keep pouring our effort into a lost cause".

At least that is my read. Even if everything went to equal revenue sharing, UT still won't have a check for its power in the conference and history tells us that will lead to disaster.

The Big 12 is set up for failure. Whether it is now or later I can't be certain, but Texas will eventually destroy the conference, either directly or indirectly, due to its ego.

Not saying that Texas isn't clearly the most valuable asset in the Big 12, but whenever one member of a conference says "We're better than you and we deserve our own network & extra revenue to place us above everyone else in this terrible conference" there are going to be serious problems - real or perceived.
UT does have more eyeballs than OU. Their mascot is more intimidating.
 

Wesley

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Ya I would be ****** if Mizzou left. They have always been our friends. Does Mizzou say no?
Looks like we need to sue some butts again. This time they are SEC butts....blame Chizslakckic for this. Only people slicker than OU types are Alabama and Florida boys.
 

brett108

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If Texas were willing to make those concessions, that would stabilize the Big 12. It remains to be seen if they're willing to do that though.
they either make those concessions here, somewhere else, or go Indy. they do not seem willing to go Indy, and by keeping the Big 12 alive they keep regional rivalries and limit the crazy cross-country aspect of these new conferences. It is at a time like this I wish that Muschamp had taken over at UT. Mack Brown would then have been the UT AD, and he would have crushed this craziness.
 

Die4Cy

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OU had the ability to get concessions out of Texas until PAC commissioner made nIoises he might be willing to deal on BevoNet. At that point, they lost much of their ability to push UT toward equality.

Is MU leaking word of the SEC invite an attempt to reapply the pressure upon UT? I think it might be. I think the Tigers may have had an SEC parachute for some time (see WVU's rejection), but don't want to jump out of the plane just yet.
 

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No, this is what you hope is going to happen. Every hawk fan is wishing for the demise of the Big 12. My read on the whole thing is that if the revenue plane is leveled, and the exit fee is increased, they will stay. If those two things happen, what makes you think this conference is less stable than the Big 10? You are giddy with excitement over this like all the other hawks. Stay out of this thread.

First, I find this topic fascinating, but I in no way care what happens, as it won't effect the Big Ten in the least.

The Big 12 will never be more stable than the Big 10. Period. The reason is simply demographics.

The Big Ten is comprised of six states whose population is larger than 5 million. The Big 12 has two states in that neighborhood - Missouri & Texas. The Big Ten has 4 states with 10 million plus in population (Michigan is 30,000 short - so I counted them - it would be three if you don't include Michigan @ 9.9 million).

Texas will always rule the Big 12 with an iron fist because it is the only school of value in the Big 12 - that isn't the case with the Big Ten. Three states are relatively equally balanced with regard to TV sets (Michigan, Pennsylvania, & Ohio), and a fourth (Illinois) has the largest number of viewers in the conference. The Big Ten's demographics and united academic mission are what make it the most stable conference in the entire country.

The Big 12's demographics, combined with Texas' ego, essentially guarantee the conference will always be ripe for implosion.
 
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First, I find this topic fascinating, but I in no way care what happens, as it won't effect the Big Ten in the least.

The Big 12 will never be more stable than the Big 10. Period. The reason is simply demographics.

The Big Ten is comprised of six states whose population is larger than 5 million. The Big 12 has two states in that neighborhood - Missouri & Texas. The Big Ten has 4 states with 10 million plus in population (Michigan is 30,000 short - so I counted them - it would be three if you don't include Michigan @ 9.9 million).

Texas will always rule the Big 12 with an iron fist because it is the only school of value in the Big 12 - that isn't the case with the Big Ten. Three states are relatively equally balanced with regard to TV sets (Michigan, Pennsylvania, & Ohio), and a fourth (Illinois) has the largest number of viewers in the conference. The Big Ten's demographics and united academic mission are what make it the most stable conference in the entire country.

The Big 12's demographics, combined with Texas' ego, essentially guarantee the conference will always be ripe for implosion.
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Wesley

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This David Boren/Powers poker high stakes game is going into overtime.

Will Bevo fork over the extra dough to the posse or will UT wait?

Tam can only sit at the bustop only so long.

It is now Tuesday and all quiet on the western front.
 
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Have the big 12 members as a whole met about this at all? It seems like everyone is taking a "loner" approach to this. Unless Missouri, OU, Baylor and everyone except UT have been talking behind UT's back.
 
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I may be confused but it seems like the very people who are "worried" about all the instability are CAUSING the instability in many cases
 
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