*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[ThatllDoCy]

I hope there is a plan. We need one.

 

[MNCyGuy]

I still like the idea of BYU, just because it's something national and different.

I still like BYU, Louisville and whoever. Mostly Cincinnati, but whoever.

I'm not a fan of going to 3 time zones if we go to 12 teams, that's why I've soured on BYU.

 

[CycloneJames]

My question is does the Big 12 want to expand and take Big East teams? I would imagine if we take any Big East teams that the conference would be completely dead. At that point massive realignment starts up again. Does the Big 12 want this? Right now it seems relatively stable. The ACC has said they are fine with 14, the Big East just said they are "committed" and are going to try adding some teams. Big 10 and Pac 12 say they don't want to expand. The SEC is the only conference that really probably needs 1 more team. It wouldn't shock me if the Big 12 either took all or none of the Big East teams.

 

[hawkfan]

Good for you. No one really asked what you thought though. Could some of you have a bigger hard on for ISU being left out in the cold? It's pretty pathetic really. You can't beat us so you root for our conference to explode in order to give you the advantage you need.

LOL. Again, I haven't once said ISU would be left out in the cold. Go ahead and go back and check my posting history the last few months. Every post I've made states that I see ISU in an AQ conference - I simply don't believe the Big 12 is viable. That's all.

And seriously? "You can't beat us so you root for our conference to explode". If you are going to discuss this with me, at least bring rational arguments to the table. Iowa is 37-17 against ISU all time - including 6-2 in the last 8. I think you better reevaluate your position just a bit - no team can win them all, but I'll take a damn near 70% win percentage any day of the week VS. any opponent.

 

[CyFan61]

LOL. Again, I haven't once said ISU would be left out in the cold. Go ahead and go back and check my posting history the last few months. Every post I've made states that I see ISU in an AQ conference - I simply don't believe the Big 12 is viable. That's all.

And seriously? "You can't beat us so you root for our conference to explode". If you are going to discuss this with me, at least bring rational arguments to the table. Iowa is 37-17 against ISU all time - including 6-2 in the last 8. I think you better reevaluate your position just a bit - no team can win them all, but I'll take a damn near 70% win percentage any day of the week VS. any opponent.

Iowa's 6-8 in the last 14 vs ISU

See, I can do it too.

 

[BCClone]

LOL. Again, I haven't once said ISU would be left out in the cold. Go ahead and go back and check my posting history the last few months. Every post I've made states that I see ISU in an AQ conference - I simply don't believe the Big 12 is viable. That's all.

And seriously? "You can't beat us so you root for our conference to explode". If you are going to discuss this with me, at least bring rational arguments to the table. Iowa is 37-17 against ISU all time - including 6-2 in the last 8. I think you better reevaluate your position just a bit - no team can win them all, but I'll take a damn near 70% win percentage any day of the week VS. any opponent.

just to clean up the missed stats, even though they don't change too much, but it is 39-20 and 5 and 3 in last 8. You're stuck in the past a few years, but then again must hawks are.

 

[BigBake]

If we get to 10 or 12 and have equal $$$ sharing the instability goes away.

We have to ensure every big 12 member has it the best here. It's really that simple.

 

[drednot57]

Do you truly believe the Big 12 will ever be truly stabilized?

I heard a lot of the same last summer after the new TV deal, then look what happened a year later. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice....

I have to believe the TAMU administration learned their lesson. They clearly stated yesterday that they have no intentions of being in the Big 12 next season and I clearly believe they'll be SEC bound in 2012.

Quite clearly, this conference is NOT viable in the long term. Hell, Oklahoma is talking about getting a deal done that will stabilize the conference for FIVE years. Five. That's their major aspirations for the conference - stabilize it for five years. Not 20, not 30, FIVE.

As long as UT is in this conference, there won't be any stabilizing. OU wants to stabilize the conference, but the problem is, they've now lost all of their leverage to do that. They can't play the "We're going to the PAC" card anymore. In other words, I don't see UT making ANY concessions because they no longer have to - UT can dictate terms as long as OU can't threaten to leave.

Perhaps if OU and the remaining seven (eight?) solidify as a voting block, then UT's power in the conference will be diminished. Thus, UT won't be able to dictate terms to the rest of the conference. Believe me, UT really, really wants to be part of a conference. With the PAC12 and ACC options gone, and having no desire to join the SEC, then where else can UT go? Independence is absolutely the last thing they want to go to as their non-revenue sports will most likely end up in the MWC, or C-USA. UT will have to come to an agreeable settlement over the LHN; they have no other viable options.

 

[BigBake]

Follow the lead of the big 10. All their teams are happy and if any left another school would happily join up to the $$$ train.

 

[hawkfan]

just to clean up the missed stats, even though they don't change too much, but it is 39-20 and 5 and 3 in last 8. You're stuck in the past a few years, but then again must hawks are.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin...art=1869&end=2010&team1=Iowa&team2=Iowa+State

Stassen says your wrong....I took my stats from there.

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

LOL. Again, I haven't once said ISU would be left out in the cold. Go ahead and go back and check my posting history the last few months. Every post I've made states that I see ISU in an AQ conference - I simply don't believe the Big 12 is viable. That's all.

And seriously? "You can't beat us so you root for our conference to explode". If you are going to discuss this with me, at least bring rational arguments to the table. Iowa is 37-17 against ISU all time - including 6-2 in the last 8. I think you better reevaluate your position just a bit - no team can win them all, but I'll take a damn near 70% win percentage any day of the week VS. any opponent.

I could care less about those 50 years, how is KF doing against ISU cause thats all that matters.

 

[hawkfan]

Perhaps if OU and the remaining seven (eight?) solidify as a voting block, then UT's power in the conference will be diminished. Thus, UT won't be able to dictate terms to the rest of the conference. Believe me, UT really, really wants to be part of a conference. With the PAC12 and ACC options gone, and having no desire to join the SEC, then where else can UT go? Independence is absolutely the last thing they want to go to as their non-revenue sports will most likely end up in the MWC, or C-USA. UT will have to come to an agreeable settlement over the LHN; they really have no choice.

I agree with this for the most part...I just refuse to believe that Texas will check their state sized egos at the door until I see it.

 

[hawkfan]

I could care less about those 50 years, how is KF doing against ISU cause thats all that matters.

There's a better time and place for a discussion about ISU/Iowa....that isn't what this thread is for.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[Clone83]

Now:

LOL. Again, I haven't once said ISU would be left out in the cold. Go ahead and go back and check my posting history the last few months. Every post I've made states that I see ISU in an AQ conference - I simply don't believe the Big 12 is viable. That's all.

And seriously? "You can't beat us so you root for our conference to explode". If you are going to discuss this with me, at least bring rational arguments to the table. Iowa is 37-17 against ISU all time - including 6-2 in the last 8. I think you better reevaluate your position just a bit - no team can win them all, but I'll take a damn near 70% win percentage any day of the week VS. any opponent.

Earlier today:

Take it elsewhere squateye. A year ago you were throwing out all these scenarios where it was inevitable ISU would end up MWC or MAC.

LOL. I've been very consistent in saying that I think ISU will end up in an AQ league.

I've never once stated that ISU would end up in the MAC. I have most consistently said that ISU would end up in a BCS "leftovers" league - a combination of the Big 12, Big East, and the best of the rest non AQs.

BS.

From May 10, 2010, squatfan (the derision towards you here is earned, hawkfan):

If Texas and Nebraska leave the Big 12, it will be MUCH harder on ISU than it will be on Iowa. Without any doubt, ISU ends up in the MAC/MWC if Texas and Nebraska (on top of Colorado) leave the Big 12. Oklahoma/OK. St. will end up in the SEC and the remaining Big 12 teams will be hung out to dry.

No matter what happens you will still be posting pea-brained drivel, whether 5, 10, or 25 years from now. I, for one, hope it isn't here.

Sure you have said it. You said it repeatedly last year.

Take your dishonest misrepresentations elsewere. You are a fraud. Just because the oldest posts are no longer easily accessible here doesn't mean you didn't say it.

 

[BCClone]

Iowa vs Iowa State 1869-2010

Stassen says your wrong....I took my stats from there.

Do a little better research will you???


DateSiteWinning teamLosing teamSeriesOctober 1, 1894Iowa CityIowa State16Iowa8ISU 1–0October 28, 1895Iowa CityIowa State24Iowa0ISU 2–0November 5, 1897Iowa CityIowa State12Iowa0ISU 3–0October 28, 1899Iowa CityIowa5Iowa State0ISU 3–1October 18, 1901Iowa CityIowa6Iowa State0ISU 3–2November 1, 1902Iowa CityIowa16Iowa State12Tied 3–3October 29, 1904Iowa CityIowa10Iowa State6UI 4–3November 24, 1905AmesIowa8Iowa State0UI 5–3November 24, 1906Iowa CityIowa State2Iowa0UI 5–4November 23, 1907AmesIowa State20Iowa14Tied 5–5November 13, 1909Iowa CityIowa13Iowa State0UI 6–5November 5, 1910AmesIowa2Iowa State0UI 7–5November 18, 1911Iowa CityIowa State9Iowa0UI 7–6November 16, 1912AmesIowa20Iowa State7UI 8–6November 15, 1913Iowa CityIowa45Iowa State7UI 9–6November 14, 1914AmesIowa26Iowa State6UI 10–6November 13, 1915Iowa CityIowa State16Iowa0UI 10–7November 18, 1916AmesIowa19Iowa State16UI 11–7November 24, 1917Iowa CityIowa6Iowa State3UI 12–7November 16, 1918Iowa CityIowa21Iowa State0UI 13–7November 22, 1919Iowa CityIowa10Iowa State0UI 14–7November 20, 1920AmesIowa14Iowa State10UI 15–7November 4, 1933Iowa CityIowa27Iowa State7UI 16–7November 20, 1934AmesIowa State31Iowa6UI 16–8 September 17, 1977Iowa CityIowa 12 Iowa State 10 UI 17–8September 23, 1978Iowa CityIowa State 31Iowa0UI 17–9September 29, 1979Iowa CityIowa30Iowa State14UI 18–9September 27, 1980Iowa CityIowa State10Iowa7UI 18–10September 19, 1981AmesIowa State23Iowa12UI 18–11September 18, 1982Iowa CityIowa State19Iowa7UI 18–12September 10, 1983AmesIowa51Iowa State10UI 19–12September 8, 1984Iowa CityIowa59Iowa State21UI 20–12September 28, 1985AmesIowa57Iowa State7UI 21–12September 13, 1986Iowa CityIowa43Iowa State7UI 22–12September 19, 1987AmesIowa48Iowa State9UI 23–12September 24, 1988Iowa CityIowa10Iowa State3UI 24–12September 23, 1989AmesIowa31Iowa State21UI 25–12September 22, 1990Iowa CityIowa45Iowa State35UI 26–12September 14, 1991AmesIowa29Iowa State10UI 27–12September 12, 1992Iowa CityIowa21Iowa State7UI 28–12September 11, 1993AmesIowa31Iowa State28UI 29–12September 10, 1994Iowa CityIowa37Iowa State9UI 30–12September 16, 1995AmesIowa27Iowa State10UI 31–12September 14, 1996Iowa CityIowa38Iowa State13UI 32–12September 20, 1997AmesIowa63Iowa State20UI 33–12September 12, 1998Iowa CityIowa State27Iowa9UI 33–13September 11, 1999AmesIowa State17Iowa10UI 33–14September 16, 2000Iowa CityIowa State24Iowa14UI 33–15November 24, 2001AmesIowa State17Iowa14UI 33–16September 14, 2002Iowa CityIowa State36Iowa31UI 33–17September 13, 2003AmesIowa40Iowa State21UI 34–17September 11, 2004Iowa CityIowa17Iowa State10UI 35–17September 10, 2005AmesIowa State23Iowa3 UI 35–18 September 16, 2006Iowa CityIowa27Iowa State17UI 36–18September 15, 2007AmesIowa State15Iowa13 UI 36–19September 13, 2008Iowa CityIowa17Iowa State5UI 37–19September 12, 2009AmesIowa35Iowa State3UI 38–19September 11, 2010Iowa CityIowa35Iowa State7UI 39–19September 10, 2011AmesIowa State44Iowa41 UI 39-20
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Like shooting fish a barrel with you guys.

 

[Incyte]

There's a better time and place for a discussion about ISU/Iowa....that isn't what this thread is for.

I'll leave it at that.

Scoreboard.

 

[keepngoal]

Hawkfan, keep your in-state stuff out of this thread.... Or.......

 

[CyFan61]

Iowa vs Iowa State 1869-2010

Stassen says your wrong....I took my stats from there.

LOL that you couldn't be bothered to include the 2011 results in your false "report" of Cy-Hawk results

 

[hawkfan]

Sure you have. You said it repeatedly last year.

Take your dishonest misrepresentations elsewere. You are a fraud. Just because the oldest posts are no longer easily accessible here doesn't mean you didn't say it.

LOL. Last year. 15 months ago. This round I've thought entirely differently - the landscape has changed JUST a bit since May of 2010 - don't you think?

The last four months I've continuously stated ISU would end up in an AQ conference - you won't find a SINGLE post in this round of expansion where I stated ISU ends up in a non AQ.

I'd also add, in May of 2010 you'd find A LOT of Cyclone fans stating that ISU could end up in a non AQ league.

 

[CycloneErik]

Don't we have other threads for rivalry stuff?

I love rivalry trash talk, but this thread is finally derailing for it.