What are you talking about? Texas has no more fondness for the Disciples of Christ as they do Baptists. In fact, UT is reportedly against legitimizing TCU via Big 12 membership.
Oh, and it is not Texas that has gotten "poo poo lipped" and left.
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What are you talking about? Texas has no more fondness for the Disciples of Christ as they do Baptists. In fact, UT is reportedly against legitimizing TCU via Big 12 membership.
Oh, and it is not Texas that has gotten "poo poo lipped" and left.
Chip Brown's last article says that Texas is not opposed to TCU and that TCU is the #1 candidate.
TCU is a terrible choice unless they are #12 with Louisville and BYU.
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Two sources noted one potential expansion possibility for the Big 12, if it loses Missouri and decides to get back to 12 teams.
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ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
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In that case, the Big 12 would potentially add TCU to the South Division and Louisville, Cincinnati and W. Virginia to the North.
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I would be ok with this. Go ahead Mizzou. No one will miss you.
ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
by ChrisMWilliams
Two sources noted one potential expansion possibility for the Big 12, if it loses Missouri and decides to get back to 12 teams.
5 minutes ago
ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
by ChrisMWilliams
In that case, the Big 12 would potentially add TCU to the South Division and Louisville, Cincinnati and W. Virginia to the North.
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I would be ok with this. Go ahead Mizzou. No one will miss you.
Chip Brown also just tweeted that the Mizzou chancellor stepped down from his post on the lead of teh expansion committee.
However, the Kansas City Star reporters have a different take...
Chip Brown flings poo at the wall and hopes that it sticks.
How about sending one of the Oklahoma schools to the North, WVU to the South and make Texas' *** travel out to Morgantown all the freaking time.
you guys are crazy if you think no one would miss mizzou. just like we won't miss nebraska??? sure we can add more teams but missouri is the heart of the old big8. You think there will be basketball tournaments in KC if no mizzou? You want ISU on an Island in the bigXII? People saying no one will miss ANY team in the XII except CU is fricking crazy. Can we survive...maybe. But no one should be wishing or hoping or excited about the prospect of them leaving.
There is one important thing that you did not mention. Texas is fertile recruiting ground for ISU and most teams in the B12. All of these teams fear being shutout because of unfair coverage by the LHN. OU, who has the most to lose, fears this the most.
I do agree with you about the money aspect (although others do disagree with that) but I do not agree that this is easily solvable. First, if OU creates their network what then? Do the forgotten 5 create theirs? What about BYU and theirs. Since all will be interested in getting air time in Texas to get before the recruits and the large markets there, is there room for 5 different networks all covering B12 sports? All in the same state? And that is making a big assumption that ESPN will even allow the other networks to be seen in Texas; if they are, ESPN has likely signed up for a loosing deal for the next 20 years which is how long the contract goes. If 5 other networks steal viewers in Texas then ESPN over-paid for UT's tier 3 rights. So ESPN will try to keep the other networks out; just as the others will fight to try and and get in.
The whole thing is ugly. I think the LHN needs to morph into a B12 network. Since the state of Texas has more population than all other B12 areas and it was UT's idea to start the network I think it is fair that they continue to receive most of the money. Share 1-2 equally but if UT gets most (say 1/2) of the B12 networks dollars then that should be good enough for UT to compromise.
And here is the deal. I know this and every B12 school knows this. The fact that they REFUSE to compromise is what is continuing to self destruct this conference. MU is a prime example; they are worried that a few years down the road UT will bolt and leave them hanging. Why wouldn't they think that way? If UT wanted to stay in the B12 and be a team player then they would compromise. MU's conclusion: they are not compromising because they want to be able to bail on the B12 at some point in the future and take the LHN with them. The LHN gives them the economic might to go it alone. Rational? You bet.
If UT wants to get the trust of the other B12 schools then need to back down on the LHN ... NOW and quit dicking around.
I was going to suggest the following but I knew it wouldn't be popular: instead of printing t-shirts saying "Beat Texas" we should have printed t-shirts saying "Boot Texas" with the following intent: if you refuse to compromise on the LHN network then the remaining schools can only conclude you have no interested in long term stability of the B12. At some point of your choosing you will make your move and destroy what is left of the B12. Will it be 2 years, 4 years, or do you wait out the 6. We will all be sitting on a time bomb with most fans not even realizing it until the day the bombshell hits. Well I say, why wait. You don't want to be a partner in the B12? So get the **** out. We are giving you the boot and you wanted your ******* LHN, well you got it.
If the remainder of the B12 schools had enough balls they would have done this 2 years ago. Nebby wouldn't have left. CU wouldn't have left. OU wouldn't have threatened to leave. And now its MU's turn. What is it going to take for people to realize that UT is the problem and riding on their coat-tails to make more money is just whoring yourself out for money. I say, boot the ****ers out and let the rest of the B12 move on without them. Its better than being a *****.
Yep, which as the new commissioner alluded to, is reversal (dare I say a concession) by UT.
Personally I would have TCU down the list, but not because of limiting the power coming from the state of Texas.
why? Why is mizzou ISU not already an epic game? You're telling me that a border state we have shared a conference with for 100 years and share a cultural and geographical connection with hasn't become an "epic annual game" but a new match-up with a remote state we share no cultural or geographical connection to and all we do share is a poor stadium design will be??? And we wonder why people can't see what is so ****ed up about realignment??
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that's what people say when they aren't excited about the football game. i'll believe it when I see it. No way is a WV vs ISU tailgate more "epic" than one of our traditional rivals.
I would be stunned if any school from TX was added to the league. There is a large opposition to additional TX schools among many Big 12 members. If TCU is added then I'm guessing some major concessions were made. It would be a major blow to lose Missouri on many levels.
The BYU fans on Twitter are saying it is done, BYU to Big 12. How that is possible when we don't even know if Mizzou is staying is beyond me. But that is the scuttlebutt for now, will prob change before tomorrow I am sure.
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