JoePa Fired/What is happening at Penn State?!?!

[CycloneChris]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

I could give two ***** about what the hell is going on with Penn State. Paterno is a dirty old man who coverd up child rape and won't be coaching there next season. I was just asking a question. What is the big deal?

:wacko::wub::no:

If I attempt to verbalize my thoughts about you, I will probably be banned.

 

[CYlent Bob]

From what we know, I don't think JoePa should be charged with a crime; HOWEVER, his admitted failure to get authorities involved in this incident should preclude him from "going out on his own terms", no matter how many freakin' games he's won.

When you sit there with your thumb up your rectum for years without simply wondering, "Hey, I wonder what ever happened to those allegations?" even once, I think you should expect to be shown the door unceremoniously.

 

[cyclone13]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Hopefully... this is what their stadium will look like on Saturday...

NO WAY !
have you seen the students supported him yesterday ? Unfortunately, this place will be full and the students and the players will carry him off the field after the game. Plus the sportcasters will pepper him with tributes and adulations

 

[DRCHIRO]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Just looking at their remaining schedule, they travel to Ohio State and Wisconsin to end the year.

I honestly don't even think it is safe for him to travel anywhere outside of Penn State, especially to Ohio State and Wisconsin.

Hopefully their BOR do the right thing and let him go immediately.

 

[Daserop]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

I know Paterno is the head coach but does he really coach? Everytime I have ever seen the camera cut to him he is just walking around aimlessly imo.

 

[HILLCYD]

I've read each of your posts during our banter. Though you stated that you don't want him strung up, you compared him to the Nazi's. He's not the CEO, or even the GM, but more akin to a powerful director. I think what we won't/don't agree on is the rush to judgement not knowing all of the facts.

You may have read them, but apparently not well enough.

Many have stated he followed protocol and that was all we could ask for out of him.

I disagree. There is a time to follow protocol and a time to do what is right.

My example was an extreme one and maybe even slightly inappropriate, but I in no way compared any PERSON to the Nazi's with my post.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
(Speechless ... shaking head). RT @TomVH: This is a letter sent by Penn State to prospects, which is now ironic. twitpic.com/7ch1tc

 

[cyhiphopp]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

:wacko::wub::no:

If I attempt to verbalize my thoughts about you, I will probably be banned.

and if it would make any difference, I think it would be worth it.

 

[CYlent Bob]

New Penn State mascot?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...7663473314_1602833151_2347900_548049834_n.jpg

 

[kberyldial]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

An out of touch old man that harbored a devil for more than a decade. It pisses me off. He needs to be fired right now!! As does anyone else that had any knowledge of this ****. ******* college football over the welfare of little boys? What the **** is wrong with people? There is no greater crime than what that sick **** Sandusky was doing. Not one. He's bringing these kids to bowl games???!!!! In front of this piece of **** Paterno and the other administrators that knew????!!! Seriously? Tear the ******* place down. Now.

 

[cygrads]

When it comes to Paterno and all others involved I think this quote applies:

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

 

[Cyclophile1]

I don't really think there is much room to give Paterno the benefit of the doubt.
It is basically a fact that he knew something "allegedly" happened. It was reported to him, and he reported it.
He then did what he thought was right and reported it to his boss.
Once he realized that NOTHING happened he should either have followed up, or reported it to the police.

There really isn't much to dispute unless someone thinks that the McQueary lied about it, or the multiple victims are lying about it.

I guess the only thing you can dispute was whether or not what Paterno did was illegal, because it was most deffinitely immoral.

Keeping it internal did nothing to protect children. Nothing.

I think what we are going to learn in the coming weeks and months is just who knew what, when and what actions were taken by officials with administrative oversight in this mess. Given the reports of 20 or more victims over the course of 15 years, and the use of Penn State facilities, money, community programs and personnel. If it can be argued that people of stature attempted to influence people to keep quiet, there will be significant legal ramifications and civil liabilities. If multiple people of stature within Penn State communicated about how to deal with it, you have a cover-up and a potential conspiracy. I think it is going to get very, very ugly for Penn State in the coming months ahead.

 

[Naughtius]

I'm not an expert in NCAA regulations, but I'm not sure they won't still be able to make this claim when all the dust settles. They'd be foolish to try, but it might technically still be correct.
Would the victims and what happened to them fall under the umbrella of the NCAA?

 

[Creed]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

I know Paterno is the head coach but does he really coach? Everytime I have ever seen the camera cut to him he is just walking around aimlessly imo.

No...he hasn't for some time IMO. Just a figure that the university uses.

 

[cyclone13]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

Just looking at their remaining schedule, they travel to Ohio State and Wisconsin to end the year.

I honestly don't even think it is safe for him to travel anywhere outside of Penn State, especially to Ohio State and Wisconsin.

Hopefully their BOR do the right thing and let him go immediately.

I can imagine 100k students screamed "Pe Do State" everytime PSU has the ball.

 

[cyhiphopp]

All I see is a red X. (Stupid work servers.)

Can anyone give me a summation?

 

[huntt26]

Re: Paterno to retire at seasons end

NO WAY !
have you seen the students supported him yesterday ? Unfortunately, this place will be full and the students and the players will carry him off the field after the game. Plus the sportcasters will pepper him with tributes and adulations

Unfortunately, I totally see this happening.

 

[Wesley]

JoePa will be up in the booth this Saturday on senior day.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I am guessing that I will actually feel worse about the whole situation when/if Paterno ever makes a statement. I have a feeling he will try to cover his own *** and any half hearted apology he could make, wont be good enough. Nothing he can say at this point justifies any of his inaction to me.

He knew something and did next to nothing. Period.

aaaaaaand, I was right.


Paterno released a statement. It makes me feel worse about the whole situation.

"I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University."


"With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more." Seriously? This is all you have to say? So for the last 9 to 13 years he has known something, but only after the victims come forward, and grand jury testimony is released, does he wish he had done more?

****ing despicable. He could have prevented the children and their families from needing "comfort and relief" by making ONE statement to the police.

I also dispise that he makes it all about Penn State. Eff Penn State, eff your football season, and eff whatever you think you call dignity. He basically chose to ignore everything and focus on football. Football is NOT that important and this is coming from a guy who loves (almost) everything about college football.

 

[TXCyclones]

From what we know, I don't think JoePa should be charged with a crime; HOWEVER, his admitted failure to get authorities involved in this incident should preclude him from "going out on his own terms", no matter how many freakin' games he's won.

When you sit there with your thumb up your rectum for years without simply wondering, "Hey, I wonder what ever happened to those allegations?" even once, I think you should expect to be shown the door unceremoniously.

Again, as HillCyd stated earlier, we may not agree on this. And I guess that's what a forum such as this serves - to espouse opinion rather than gain concesus. But one thing I found particularly interesting/telling from Paterno's statement over the weekend, ""If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families," Paterno said Sunday, after the news broke, in a prepared statement. "They are in our prayers."" Again, there's seemingly much more we don't know than what we do know.