Blog: How will the JuCo's affect next season?

[chrismiller4isu]

Anyone else nervous with the thought that bubu could be our starting point guard?

 

[Rhoadhoused]

Anyone else nervous with the thought that bubu could be our starting point guard?

I am. He will need to improve even more than he did this off season. We need more scoring threats if we are going to start him imo.

 

[azhuth09]

Anyone else nervous with the thought that bubu could be our starting point guard?

Bubu may be our staring point guard for the first few games, but by the time conference comes around Monte will be the starter. Bubu will provide quality productive minutes off the bench along with leadership but nothing more. Add whatever Naz can provide off the bench and I am not worried at all about our guard situation next year.

 

[Rural]

It would take a real miracle for Hoiberg to equal the past two seasons next year. If he does, and that doesn't get him accolades, then there is no justice in the world. I remember when Tim Floyd used JC players so effectively. It is certainly possible if these players will learn good defense.

Silly mitten, I trust Fred.

 

[CarlHungus]

Morris will be our starting PG by the end of the year I think. I love Bubu, but I don't know about him as a starter

 

[madcityCY]

I predict the non-conf season will be very confusing and probably disappointing while this team tries to figure out where everyone fits. Hopefully Fred and the staff can get it all straightened out by the time conference comes around. There are just so many moving parts next year!

Not to mention that next year's non-conf is looking like it will be pretty tough.

 

[Doc]

Anyone else nervous with the thought that bubu could be our starting point guard?

Barring abnormal improvement from Ejim, I don't like the idea of Bubu at PG when Ejim is at the 3. It'd be a great defensive lineup, but the offensive flow would suffer.

 

[heitclone]

Bubu may be our staring point guard for the first few games, but by the time conference comes around Monte will be the starter. Bubu will provide quality productive minutes off the bench along with leadership but nothing more. Add whatever Naz can provide off the bench and I am not worried at all about our guard situation next year.

Ask Iowa how leaning on freshmen guards works, I agree though, Bubu will win the job early by default. If Fred ends up going with a small lineup, he'll start all year. If Fred goes big with Melvin at the 3, then he may not. The guard situation is the biggest concern, to just assume freshman and sophs who couldn't get any time this year can come and be depended on is wishful thinking. I'm not saying the young guys won't step up, its just silly to assume they're going to come right in and contribute. I hope you're right though, if they don't this place will get ugly next year. Next season will be Fred's biggest challenge to date, college bball is all about guards and with Fred's style they are even more crucial. No coach wants to go into a season with no proven guard who can score.

 

[mitten1975]

Silly mitten, I trust Fred.

I am not expressing one iota of doubt in my unwavering faith in that steadfast, and somewhat larger than life icon, which we trust so implicitly. I was merely stating that if he pulls this one off, kudos.

 

[azhuth09]

Ask Iowa how leaning on freshmen guards works, I agree though, Bubu will win the job early by default. If Fred ends up going with a small lineup, he'll start all year. If Fred goes big with Melvin at the 3, then he may not. The guard situation is the biggest concern, to just assume freshman and sophs who couldn't get any time this year can come and be depended on is wishful thinking. I'm not saying the young guys won't step up, its just silly to assume they're going to come right in and contribute. I hope you're right though, if they don't this place will get ugly next year. Next season will be Fred's biggest challenge to date, college bball is all about guards and with Fred's style they are even more crucial. No coach wants to go into a season with no proven guard who can score.

If you are comparing us with Iowa then consider the fact that their team has been much better this year than they have in the past few. By playing a freshmen guard you are not dooming your team to not make the NCAA tournament. Maybe it is me seeing things through cardinal glasses or not but Monte seems to have a lot more potential than Gesell. Play Monte and it gives the Cyclones potential for a NCAA tourney seed next year with room to grow. We have all seen what Bubu can do and I don't want to diminish his value but in the long run giving Monte experience running this team next year will have so many more benefits than Bubu running point.

 

[mitten1975]

Monte appears to be one of the top two candidates for Mr. Basketball in Michigan. He is a pretty heavy duty recruit, although I am not saying still that means he will start, he has a chance to be very good.

 

[clonedude]

I am. He will need to improve even more than he did this off season. We need more scoring threats if we are going to start him imo.

We will have plenty of scoring threats even if Bubu is starting at PG.

Niang and Ejim will both score for us down low, and Matt Thomas, SDW, and KJ Bluford can light it up as well.

Even if Monte Morris ends up starting at PG, I don't think Fred will need him to score much? Yes, we will be young, but I think we will still have scorers. Probably not the likes of Tyrus McGee unfortunately, but hopefully as a group we will be ok.

 

[enisthemenace]

I wish there was more information regarding Edozie. The only information that I've been able to find is on the Tyler cc website. The last five box scores on their website show him with the following points 4, 4, 0, 6, 0. They don't have rebounding stats in their box scores. Those are underwhelming scores for a division one player on a junior college team.

Hopefully the order by which they list players in their box scores is not correlated to their time on the floor. Daniel is always listed last.[/QUOTE

I hear ya. Take a look at the box scores on Cyclones.com. McGee is usually listed at the bottom of the page, so I don't think that means much.

I'm not expecting Edozie to come in and score a ton, but I do think he will bring a different dimension defensively. I saw recently he averaging close to 8 boards and 2-3 blocks per game. He's a "worker"...at least, that's what I'm thinking.

 

[clonedude]

I wish there was more information regarding Edozie. The only information that I've been able to find is on the Tyler cc website. The last five box scores on their website show him with the following points 4, 4, 0, 6, 0. They don't have rebounding stats in their box scores. Those are underwhelming scores for a division one player on a junior college team.

Hopefully the order by which they list players in their box scores is not correlated to their time on the floor. Daniel is always listed last.[/QUOTE

I hear ya. Take a look at the box scores on Cyclones.com. McGee is usually listed at the bottom of the page, so I don't think that means much.

I'm not expecting Edozie to come in and score a ton, but I do think he will bring a different dimension defensively. I saw recently he averaging close to 8 boards and 2-3 blocks per game. He's a "worker"...at least, that's what I'm thinking.

Could he be a Godfrey type player eventually? That's kinda what I was hoping for. Not a scorer really at all, but more of an enforcer type rebounding guy that is a physical banger inside and does the dirty work.

I'm kinda worried though that we're bringing in a 3 year guy that goes scoreless quite a bit at the JUCO level. But, as I said, I wouldn't care if he averaged 1 pt a game for ISU as long as he averaged 8 rebs a game or more.

 

[enisthemenace]

Could he be a Godfrey type player eventually? That's kinda what I was hoping for. Not a scorer really at all, but more of an enforcer type rebounding guy that is a physical banger inside and does the dirty work.

I'm kinda worried though that we're bringing in a 3 year guy that goes scoreless quite a bit at the JUCO level. But, as I said, I wouldn't care if he averaged 1 pt a game for ISU as long as he averaged 8 rebs a game or more.

I think so, yes...similar, at least. Think of McGee's intensity (not scoring), but in a lot bigger body.

 

[RustShack]

Morris/Long/Bubu
SDW/Bluford
Thomas/Hogue/Okoro
Ejim/Edozie
Niang/Gibson/Amardi

Morris/Long/Bubu
Thomas/SDW/Bluford
Ejim/Hogue/Okoro
Niang/Edozie
Gibson/Amardie

 

[Thompsonclone]

Could he be a Godfrey type player eventually? That's kinda what I was hoping for. Not a scorer really at all, but more of an enforcer type rebounding guy that is a physical banger inside and does the dirty work.

I'm kinda worried though that we're bringing in a 3 year guy that goes scoreless quite a bit at the JUCO level. But, as I said, I wouldn't care if he averaged 1 pt a game for ISU as long as he averaged 8 rebs a game or more.

Edozie only has two years.

 

[gocubs2118]

Morris/Long/Bubu
SDW/Bluford
Thomas/Hogue/Okoro
Ejim/Edozie
Niang/Gibson/Amardi

Morris/Long/Bubu
Thomas/SDW/Bluford
Ejim/Hogue/Okoro
Niang/Edozie
Gibson/Amardie

I like lineup 1. It's young but it has a lot of potential. 3 top 150 guards, 1 top 60 forward and the returning rebound leader in the Big XII? Give me some of that.

 

[Doc]

You could almost consider Georges more of a 3 than Ejim. At least, I think he handles the ball and passes better.

Georges would essentially man the 3 on offense and Ejim the 3 on defense since Georges is not going to defend wing players well. The problem is Georges is good in the post, Percy's strength is in the low post, and Ejim is not a guy to stretch the defense (right now). There's not enough space in the low post for two guys. That being said, while I'm not confident that Ejim will become a wing-level ball handler this offseason, I do think he can become a good enough 3 shooter to stretch the defense (like a much better Booker), allowing a Niang or Gibson to operate in the post. And Ejim at the 3 on defense would be awesome since he can defend that position and would still be on of the best rebounders in the conference. Our walk-on/young guards would have to shoulder a lot of the load though.

 

[enisthemenace]

The Big 12 is going to HATE Ejim next year. Nothing to do with the OP, but...