Do we think the students move to the SEZ?

[cloneswereall]

Wow, that just seem odd. Seems like they'd be a ways away. I've always thought the students should end up in the endzone. But if they want to make this really nice, it doesn't seem like they would move the students into their brand new seats

It's all about sight lines and ability to sell better sight lines with donations. Business/economically, it's more effective to give students/no donors the worst sight lines on seeing how far the plays go for gains/losses. That's why end zones and corners are given to them.

 

[CyCrazy]

Yea, they used to be in the SEZ. I think they were there until my senior year (07-08) year. Either then or the year before.

Are you sure? I finished in 05 and I don't think the band was in the SEZ during the tragedies that was the 04/05 seasons.

 

[chuckd4735]

Are you sure? I finished in 05 and I don't think the band was in the SEZ during the tragedies that was the 04/05 seasons.

Tragedies? Those were 2 of the better season I can remember. 2005 is easily the best season we have had in the past 10 years.

 

[CyFan61]

Not every school screws over their students, like some of your are suggesting the AD should try. TCU and K-State are two good examples in the Big 12 where the AD gave them good seats around midfield.

Quick math = [$63.00 fee x 30,000 students] + [$125.00 tickets x 8,000 student ticket holders] = $2.89 million from the students, not even including basketball ticket costs.

 

[00clone]

Not every school screws over their students. TCU and K-State are two good examples in the Big 12 where the AD gave them good seats around midfield.

Quick math = [$63.00 fee x 30,000 students] + [$125.00 tickets x 8,000 student ticket holders] = $2.89 million from the students, not even including basketball ticket costs.

Well, TCU's different...at 48K a year for tuition, they're paying well for nice seats.

 

[cloneswereall]

Are you sure? I finished in 05 and I don't think the band was in the SEZ during the tragedies that was the 04/05 seasons.

Yea, they were in the SEZ for at least 04 and 05 seasons. Pretty sure 06 as well. I knew a lot of people in the band at the time.

Also, 04 and 05 seasons were the two best seasons we had when I was in school there. 06 was DMac's last year, and 07 was Chizik's first. We went to Houston in 05.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Not every school screws over their students, like some of your are suggesting the AD should try. TCU and K-State are two good examples in the Big 12 where the AD gave them good seats around midfield.

Quick math = [$63.00 fee x 30,000 students] + [$125.00 tickets x 8,000 student ticket holders] = $2.89 million from the students, not even including basketball ticket costs.

And I guarantee if they moved the students to the endzone they would still sell out of tickets. There will be a few who get mad and grumble about it, but they will still sell out. So, you take that same amount of money and + a lot more money from donors who will now be sitting in some prime seating, paying for a full priced ticket. Moving the students to the endzone and opening up all of that seating to donors will immediately increase revenue millions of $$.

 

[CyCrazy]

Tragedies? Those were 2 of the better season I can remember. 2005 is easily the best season we have had in the past 10 years.

Oh really? The way we chocked away the Big 12 North title 2 years in a row.

 

[cloneswereall]

Oh really? The way we chocked away the Big 12 North title 2 years in a row.

Better than anything between and now and the 03 season.

 

[CyFan61]

And I guarantee if they moved the students to the endzone they would still sell out of tickets. There will be a few who get mad and grumble about it, but they will still sell out. So, you take that same amount of money and + a lot more money from donors who will now be sitting in some prime seating, paying for a full priced ticket. Moving the students to the endzone and opening up all of that seating to donors will immediately increase revenue millions of $$.

How expensive are the student section area seats in JTS for other areas of the stadium (like NW corner instead of NE corner)?

My point is not to maximize AD revenue, but rather to give the students value equal to what they're paying for. Let's slow down on trying to wring the students dry because they're easy money.

 

[isuno1fan]

Rumor is students get the north hillsides

 

[CyArob]

Rumor is students get the north hillsides

Rumor is wrong.

 

[chuckd4735]

Oh really? The way we chocked away the Big 12 North title 2 years in a row.

Name me 2 better seasons. TIA.

 

[Cycsk]

I have always thought moving the students to the SEZ would be a good idea. That way, you can put suites in on the east side and not have to worry about having the students in front of suites.

Also need to put a visitors locker room under the SEZ so we can do away with this stupid criss cross thing.

Surely, there will be suites above the main seating area in the new SEZ.

 

[cyclonedave25]

How expensive are the student section area seats in JTS for other areas of the stadium (like NW corner instead of NE corner)?

My point is not to maximize AD revenue, but rather to give the students value equal to what they're paying for. Let's slow down on trying to wring the students dry because they're easy money.

The Student section currently occupies 28-32 and P-S.
Using the mirror side of the stadium, here's what those sections are worth.

28) $500 donation + $375 ticket.
29) $250 donation + $375 ticket.
30) $100 donation + $375 ticket.
31) No donation + $225 ticket.
32) No donation + $175 ticket.
P) Half $500 donation/$250 donation + $375 ticket.
Q) $100 donation + $375 ticket.
R) No donation + $225 ticket.
S) No donation + $175 ticket.

Link: https://admin.xosn.com//share/ViewPhoto.dbml?&USE_TITAN=&DB_OEM_ID=10700&LOAD_IMAGE_ID=207936821&LOAD_IMAGE_SIZE=1024

If you want to give the students equal to what they're paying for, you stick them in all 4 corners or the endzone. Those are the places where the prices are comparable. I was a student once and would not have had a problem moving to the endzone, especially now with the view of that videoboard.

 

[cloneswereall]

How expensive are the student section area seats in JTS for other areas of the stadium (like NW corner instead of NE corner)?

My point is not to maximize AD revenue, but rather to give the students value equal to what they're paying for. Let's slow down on trying to wring the students dry because they're easy money.

According to http://www.cyclones.com/fls/10700/t...grams/Trice_seating_large.jpg?DB_OEM_ID=10700

At least $50 in ticket prices up to a $250 in ticket increase plus $500 donation minimum. That is as long as you discount the visitor section.

 

[CyFan61]

The Student section currently occupies 28-32 and P-S.
Using the mirror side of the stadium, here's what those sections are worth.

28) $500 donation + $375 ticket.
29) $250 donation + $375 ticket.
30) $100 donation + $375 ticket.
31) No donation + $225 ticket.
32) No donation + $175 ticket.
P) Half $500 donation/$250 donation + $375 ticket.
Q) $100 donation + $375 ticket.
R) No donation + $225 ticket.
S) No donation + $175 ticket.

Link: https://admin.xosn.com//share/ViewPhoto.dbml?&USE_TITAN=&DB_OEM_ID=10700&LOAD_IMAGE_ID=207936821&LOAD_IMAGE_SIZE=1024

If you want to give the students equal to what they're paying for, you stick them in all 4 corners or the endzone. Those are the places where the prices are comparable. I was a student once and would not have had a problem moving to the endzone, especially now with the view of that videoboard.

Students are paying about $360/ticket with the mandatory fee + ticket prices. Averaged out over those sections, seems about right.

 

[Clonehomer]

Not every school screws over their students, like some of your are suggesting the AD should try. TCU and K-State are two good examples in the Big 12 where the AD gave them good seats around midfield.

Quick math = [$63.00 fee x 30,000 students] + [$125.00 tickets x 8,000 student ticket holders] = $2.89 million from the students, not even including basketball ticket costs.

And even quicker math = [$375.00 tickets x 8,000 reserved seat tickets = $3,000,000] Not including donations for getting those seats.

As a comparison, they currently charge $175 for end zone and upper deck corner seats today. So no, the students do not get screwed in either scenario.

 

[Clonehomer]

Students are paying about $360/ticket with the mandatory fee + ticket prices. Averaged out over those sections, seems about right.

That mandatory fee pays for a lot more than the athletic department. Cyride, Lied, and that State gym renovation are a big chunk of those fees.

 

[cyclonedave25]

Students are paying about $360/ticket with the mandatory fee + ticket prices. Averaged out over those sections, seems about right.

How much are student tix these days and how much is the mandatory fee?
Even if they do cost $360/ticket for student seats, they are still in sections where donation levels are $100-500. That is a lot of money being left on the table.