IOWA vs IOWA STATE

[LLCoolCY]

Well Iowa's "deep bench" may be getting deeper... After the Ejim and McGrady situation earlier this year. I just assume outside chance means, he'll play.
Now which 3 point shooter would Fran bring off the bench first to thow up some bricks? Jok or Oglesby.

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN51m
Iowa's Fran McCaffery said there's an "outside shot" Josh Oglesby could be back Friday against Iowa State. More likely vs. Ark-Pine Bluff.​

 

[Gunnerclone]

The REAL question this year is - Has Fran's chair slamming improved? I don't think I have seen him abuse the furniture yet this year, could be the hidden key to the game. The slam(s?) last year while video worthy, were not that impressive. Definitely no Bobby Knight. Do we place 'tear away' chairs out for him Friday night?

I am so Pwoud to have Fran Mcdumphreys as our Hokaye basketball coach.

 

[mikem]

I will take his senior leadership and raise you a Melvin Ejim.

And I agree with you, Melvin is the best player on either team.

But Marble has been clutch for iowa this year, to deny so is silly

 

[cyrocksmypants]

For what it's worth, I don't think Niang has improved from last year. Yet. He's shown some flashes of brilliance, but the closest we've seen of a complete game from him was probably UNI, and his defense was pretty weak in the first half. I think he will end the season improved over last, but as of right now, I'd say at best, he's equal to last year all around.

 

[AustinHawk]

You realize ISU is on a 39-3 home court tear lately right? And it's actually 40-2 because every national media outlet ran stories for three days straight about how one of the games was obviously fixed for KU.

It's possible Iowa could win by 15+, but there's no team in the NCAA that has a 30% chance of beating ISU by home by 15. If you were trolling, you got me. If not, stay away from numbers because you don't understand them.

I know how tough Hilton is, especially when the Clones are good. But to say Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 in a rivalry game is just overconfidence. That's like saying UNC could never win at Cameron Indoor by more than 15, but they have. I'm not saying that it's going to happen, just that it could.

 

[CyJack13]

I know how tough Hilton is, especially when the Clones are good. But to say Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 in a rivalry game is just overconfidence. That's like saying UNC could never win at Cameron Indoor by more than 15, but they have. I'm not saying that it's going to happen, just that it could.

There's a major difference between saying it could possibly happen and saying there's a 30% chance of it happening.

 

[acgclone]

I know how tough Hilton is, especially when the Clones are good. But to say Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 in a rivalry game is just overconfidence. That's like saying UNC could never win at Cameron Indoor by more than 15, but they have. I'm not saying that it's going to happen, just that it could.

Putting odds at 30% is way too high. Of course there's a chance. I would say maybe 10%. When ISU fields a good team, we will rarely lose at Hilton, and when we do it's going to be a nail biter most of the time.

 

[NATEizKING]

I know how tough Hilton is, especially when the Clones are good. But to say Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 in a rivalry game is just overconfidence. That's like saying UNC could never win at Cameron Indoor by more than 15, but they have. I'm not saying that it's going to happen, just that it could.

The last time we lost by double digits at home was Jan. 23rd, 2010 against Kansas. 30% chance Iowa wins by 15+?

 

[CRcyclone6]

Should be a very good game. Love the comeback vs UNI the other night. Games like that can only help in the future. Don't forget the Lefester game on cy.tv tonight at 8:00. Also, I see Tues night at 10:00 is the 1991 game on cy.tv. 98-84 ISU win. Hoiberg's freshman year.

 

[CyberJJJ]

For what it's worth, I don't think Niang has improved from last year. Yet. He's shown some flashes of brilliance, but the closest we've seen of a complete game from him was probably UNI, and his defense was pretty weak in the first half. I think he will end the season improved over last, but as of right now, I'd say at best, he's equal to last year all around.

If we are going to look at Niang's growth from one year to the next, let's get in a bit more detail. While Georges had played before the Iowa game last year, that was his real coming out party, and he wasn't starting until after that if memory serves correctly. What is down from last year is Georges' outside shooting %. What people seem to be looking past is how much he has improved as a passer, with his assist total potentially the single biggest change. Add to that the fact he has become a "closer" and it is hard to say he hasn't improved. If he was shooting just the same % from outside as he did last year, I think we would be saying he was improved. The Iowa game will be interesting, because it could well showcase the flexibility having a Georges at the center position provides, especially with the length Iowa has in the post. Last year Georges punished them at times by being able to set up at the high post, step our for the three, pull up for the elbow J, drive to the hoop or dish. That combo is tough for any defender, especially a true big.

 

[4theCYcle]

If we are going to look at Niang's growth from one year to the next, let's get in a bit more detail. While Georges had played before the Iowa game last year, that was his real coming out party, and he wasn't starting until after that if memory serves correctly. What is down from last year is Georges' outside shooting %. What people seem to be looking past is how much he has improved as a passer, with his assist total potentially the single biggest change. Add to that the fact he has become a "closer" and it is hard to say he hasn't improved. If he was shooting just the same % from outside as he did last year, I think we would be saying he was improved. The Iowa game will be interesting, because it could well showcase the flexibility having a Georges at the center position provides, especially with the length Iowa has in the post. Last year Georges punished them at times by being able to set up at the high post, step our for the three, pull up for the elbow J, drive to the hoop or dish. That combo is tough for any defender, especially a true big.

It also seems he's been getting a bit frustrated with his outside shot this year. Last year he had a solid stroke, but it hasn't been there this year. Luckily Naz and Ejim have stepped up from out there. I've noticed his inside game is getting more confident, as his hook seems to be a high percentage shot now. Georges also does a spin move and lays off the glass that I love watching him do.

 

[CyTwins]

I know how tough Hilton is, especially when the Clones are good. But to say Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 in a rivalry game is just overconfidence. That's like saying UNC could never win at Cameron Indoor by more than 15, but they have. I'm not saying that it's going to happen, just that it could.

Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 points in Hilton

 

[CyFan61]

I know how tough Hilton is, especially when the Clones are good. But to say Iowa has no chance of winning by 15 in a rivalry game is just overconfidence. That's like saying UNC could never win at Cameron Indoor by more than 15, but they have. I'm not saying that it's going to happen, just that it could.

You gave it a 30% chance of happening

I think 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% may be more appropriate.

 

[DrShekelstein]

It will be very interesting to see how the hoks play in their first hostile environment. I think this is their first true away game and I think it is also their first game against real competition (not including Villanova, which they lost to). I think it will be a very tough game for both teams regardless. All our clones better bring their A game or it will be a disappointing night for the clones.

It will be funny in two years when they lose Marble, McCabe, Basabe, Oglesby, Olaseni, and Ginger boy. How will Fran compete with just Jok, Gessell, and stagnant Woodbury.

Hoping to see a solid cyclone victory, with Ellerman on the board.

 

[heitclone]

It also seems he's been getting a bit frustrated with his outside shot this year. Last year he had a solid stroke, but it hasn't been there this year. Luckily Naz and Ejim have stepped up from out there. I've noticed his inside game is getting more confident, as his hook seems to be a high percentage shot now. Georges also does a spin move and lays off the glass that I love watching him do.

He has a couple moves that are almost unstoppable, he does stuff that proves he's a better athlete than he gets credit for. IMO he's shown if he can stay on the floor, he can take games over on the offensive end.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

If we are going to look at Niang's growth from one year to the next, let's get in a bit more detail. While Georges had played before the Iowa game last year, that was his real coming out party, and he wasn't starting until after that if memory serves correctly. What is down from last year is Georges' outside shooting %. What people seem to be looking past is how much he has improved as a passer, with his assist total potentially the single biggest change. Add to that the fact he has become a "closer" and it is hard to say he hasn't improved. If he was shooting just the same % from outside as he did last year, I think we would be saying he was improved. The Iowa game will be interesting, because it could well showcase the flexibility having a Georges at the center position provides, especially with the length Iowa has in the post. Last year Georges punished them at times by being able to set up at the high post, step our for the three, pull up for the elbow J, drive to the hoop or dish. That combo is tough for any defender, especially a true big.

Wouldn't that show even more that he hasn't improved? If his numbers are almost equal, and he didn't get the lions share of them until later into the season, that would mean his numbers are more weighted toward the end of last season, as opposed to evenly distributed per game throughout the whole season.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid and think he's a great Cyclone and think he'll bust out big here any game. Just playing devil's advocate.

 

[LLCoolCY]

If we are going to look at Niang's growth from one year to the next, let's get in a bit more detail. While Georges had played before the Iowa game last year, that was his real coming out party, and he wasn't starting until after that if memory serves correctly. What is down from last year is Georges' outside shooting %. What people seem to be looking past is how much he has improved as a passer, with his assist total potentially the single biggest change. Add to that the fact he has become a "closer" and it is hard to say he hasn't improved. If he was shooting just the same % from outside as he did last year, I think we would be saying he was improved. The Iowa game will be interesting, because it could well showcase the flexibility having a Georges at the center position provides, especially with the length Iowa has in the post. Last year Georges punished them at times by being able to set up at the high post, step our for the three, pull up for the elbow J, drive to the hoop or dish. That combo is tough for any defender, especially a true big.

All good points. Only thing I'd add is feel his conditioning is better than last year. As a result he was able to close out the BYU and Mich games as the primary finisher. I think outside shooting will improve, I'll trust his 39% 3 point shooting from last year as opposed to the 7 game sample up to this point. Even if it doesnt improve dramatically, defenses still have to respect his shot from outside thus pulling out the center and opening up the post. That is just as important. Overall there is improvement, and I am not sure why people are worried about Georges.

 

[CyberJJJ]

Good build on the conditioning. It seemed last year that George's hit the three ball during the game, but not so much later in the game when he tired. His finishing during Michigan and BYU games this year illustrates the change.

 

[CyGuy5]

ready to kill those losers on friday. hopefully 100 and something to 0 but thats practically impossible. im gonna say like 76 to 68

 

[CyberJJJ]

Wouldn't that show even more that he hasn't improved? If his numbers are almost equal, and he didn't get the lions share of them until later into the season, that would mean his numbers are more weighted toward the end of last season, as opposed to evenly distributed per game throughout the whole season.

Don't get me wrong, I love the kid and think he's a great Cyclone and think he'll bust out big here any game. Just playing devil's advocate.

I think the assist number change (under 2 to 4) for a center is a breakout statistic.