Kansas has seven players 6'7 or taller. Are they a fair comparison? Of course not. The lack of size on this team and Fred's other teams has cost us a lot of games. He says it after every loss. None of us has any clue how effective McKay will be. We all think he's the next Cato. Hopefully he is. He's one player. It's undeniable that we need more length to start winning some of the games... especially on the road. It's the only thing holding us back from knocking on KU's door.
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Kansas has seven players 6'7 or taller. Are they a fair comparison? Of course not. The lack of size on this team and Fred's other teams has cost us a lot of games. He says it after every loss. None of us has any clue how effective McKay will be. We all think he's the next Cato. Hopefully he is. He's one player. It's undeniable that we need more length to start winning some of the games... especially on the road. It's the only thing holding us back from knocking on KU's door.
It seemed like we were trying to force it into the lane. Maybe it was your guys messing us up, but we just didn't seem to be in sync with our entry passes. Yet, we kept trying. I would have switched to something else, such as more driving moves. If nothing else, we would have gotten you into foul more so that we would have been shooting free throws at the end.
Correct. Gotta shake this off and clear the heads and play smart ball (Like the Texas game). No hero ball, play smart and hit the got hand.
Honestly, seeding in the big 12 tourney isn't supe important if we can get a first round bye, league is deep.
But in the big dance, off our game by much and it'd be easy to lose to a hot Cinderella.
Ejim scores a good part of his points off rebounds and quick passes down low. Tonight Baylor took that away and did a good job rebounding, so yes Ejim struggled.
Thank you. Two years ago the conference was not good. Last year it was OK. This year it's the best in the country. We're not playing that well right now, but a lot can change. For the last two seasons we got bounced in the conf. tourney in convincing fashion, two years ago to a bad Texas team, yet absolutely demolished our first round opponent. When I start to get down about the season I think of A) 2006-2010 and B) The day I heard Ejim injured his knee.
You said something about a 7 seed, or at least I'm pretty sure you did. I'm too lazy to go back and check, so I apologize if you didn't.
I agree; there might be some time to adjust after sitting out 1.5 seasons. I've seen the diff with players like Kane who have do not sit for a season and come in to contribute immediately
Nader plays on the perimeter. He averaged five rebounds on a crappy team. He's shorter than Melvin and not near the jumper. McKay should help. We need a couple more like him.
Yes! but it has never happened. Not really with all 5 starters playing well and getting legit bench points.
Agree with you, Mel was struggling tonight with his shots and Georges was turnover prone on passes. Guess my point was that more times than not over the course of the season Mel and Georges have come through in the clutch. Tonight they didn't and I can accept that in light of their overall season-long body of work. Prediction:solid bounce-back game by both vs. the Cowpokes.
Then you, and the rest of these "fans" should be happy that you can quit wasting your time watching Iowa State basketball.
List of things holding us back from being on KU's level:
1) Length
2) Length
3) Length
4) More length
5) Some length
6) Length on the inside
7) Guard length
8) Length
9) Length
and lastly...
10) Ichiban Super length
Good to know. I was thinking Nader was 6'7". Haven't seen him play yet, mostly going off what other say about him.
Good for Kansas. The bluebloods get their pick of bigs and the rest of the teams have to fight over what is left. Its just the way it is. Every time Fred is going to take an athletic 6'6 player over 6'10 player that cannot play in his system. Fred has won a lot of games without an athletic big.
One guy can make a huge difference. That Kane guys sure has. Put McKay on this team, and what how big of a difference would that make.
Actually in Ames this year we couldn't hit the broad side of a barn otherwise we would have blown KU out, In Lawerence, it was a good game. Last year, well you know what happened. I'd say we are knocking on the KU door, we typically have played them very tough in Fred's tenure despite the talent disparity.
Here is the thing we aren't ever going to out recruit KU consistently, and with Bill Self there, likely never. It does no good to try and matchup with them, we need to create the mismatches unconventionally with things like an inverted offense, dragging big men out to the perimeter etc. Its how we are going to stay competitive and beat them. I feel the reason we beat KU consistently in the Eustachy years was because Roy Williams is no Bill Self when it comes to caching, now Bill is outrecruiting Roy too.
this crew didn't call many fouls on anyone (except Niang) all night...
I still think Baylor was committed to disrupting your passes in the paint and was willing to give up 3's in order to make your life difficult inside. Heslip, Chery and Franklin were constantly dropping down and making life hard on the high post player...and even with Kane raining down threes they stayed with it. I also thought Austin and Jefferson were excellent tonight not giving up easy looks...making your bigs earn everything they got.
sorry folks, I realize length can make up for a lot, but Georges and Mel and one off night. If we can hit the outside shots like tonight AND get our Big 3 in sync, we can beat length.
Its really
5 star recruit
5 star recruit
5 star recruit
4 star recruit
4 star recruit
McDonalds AA
McDonalds AA
#1 Recruit in the country.
Easy to say, but the taller HS players are, the more overvalued and overrecruited they become. The competition for 6'10 and taller guys is ridiculous. Unless you are a blueblood (or Scott Drew) you are usually going to get at best a project, at worst a total bust. To get the program rolling CFH has decided to get guys that he knows have skill and figure out how to take advantage of matchups to minimize the length difference.
