*** OFFICIAL VEISHEA WEEK 2014 THREAD ***

Erik4Cy

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Would people be outraged if no light poles ever got torn down?

That was the big mistake imo and where it got really bad. Then you hear that it actually did hit a guy in the head. Flipping cars on their sides and throwing beers are one thing, but there's not a lot of danger involved with those. Metal light posts going down like that is seriously dangerous.

It's a pretty unfortunate situation.

Those both still really suck obviously (especially if its your car.) I think it comes down to injuries or (god forbid) deaths.

If no light posts went down, but someone was just as equally hurt because of a car flipping or beer bottle - I think people would still be just as upset about the riots.
 

Cyballzz

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Oh right, I forgot I was on CF.

uhhh.. screw Greeks! They small bad and live in broken-down houses! yeah! We don't need to be paddled to have friends!

Easy Drama Queen... I never said they "small" bad.

And if my friends want to paddle me? Lets get weird.
 

carvers4math

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I can guarantee you that a good portion of the students out there were not 21. Towers, Friley, and Greek Row are all close to Campustown. Think of the huge number(record numbers, in fact) of freshman and sophomore aged students that were in close proximity when this who thing started. A lot of them probably joined in just to say they were a part of it. Im not saying its the underclassmen's fault-this could have been incited by anyone-but I do suspect they were a part of the reason it got out of hand.

Oh I am sure that is true. He just had no interest going to campustown until he turned 21.
 

RubyClone

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So if you are not acting in a violent manner or with intent to act in a violent manner and are in a place where you can't hear a peace officer give an order to disperse then it sounds to me like you CAN stand around and watch...in order to be taking part in a riot they would have to be acting in a "violent" or "disturbing" manner, as riot is defined in 723.1.

Boy - you have about every sorry excuse in the book, don't you?

"I'm couldn't hear the bull horn over the obvious riot". "I couldn't get out of the way of the people carrying a couch down Welch".

Whatever.
 

Rhoadhoused

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Those both still really suck obviously (especially if its your car.) I think it comes down to injuries or (god forbid) deaths.

If no light posts went down, but someone was just as equally hurt because of a car flipping or beer bottle - I think people would still be just as upset about the riots.

Yeah I agree totally. I think light poles going down in the middle of a mob is obviously a lot more dangerous than those, but really what matters is someone got hurt and may be dead. Without that I think there is a lot less outrage, but the response is obviously well deserved.

I'm not embarrassed myself though. Maybe embarrassed for those involved. Extremely embarrassed for that dude taunting and dancing in that video earlier.
 

ianoconnor

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I'm all in favor of canceling VEISHEA. If it returns in future years, cut it way back. Why does it need to be a week long celebration? A Fri-Sun event is easily sufficient.

I think next year should be cancelled entirely and I wouldn't be mad if Leath handed down a 5 year ban.

Question -- are there surveillance cameras in Campustown?
 

ISUCyclones2015

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I'm all in favor of canceling VEISHEA. If it returns in future years, cut it way back. Why does it need to be a week long celebration? A Fri-Sun event is easily sufficient.

I think next year should be cancelled entirely and I wouldn't be mad if Leath handed down a 5 year ban.

On another note, why have they not installed permanent HD surveillance cameras in Campustown??

Because Ames city council wanted GSB to help fund it and they said no
 

ISUCubswin

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I guess cops told a bunch of students that 75% of arrests last night in Ames were on non-ISU students. Four people tweeted it just a few minutes ago.
 

Cyclonin

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I doubt the majority of the students in this class were out.

But I'm sure at least 90% of Tri Delts and DZ's were out there.

I'm also sure the majority of Greeks weren't out there. But it's a select few houses that are nuts.

Got it, thanks for confirming my statements about you.

Let's turn this around:

I'm also sure the majority of non-Greeks weren't out there. But it's a select few students that are nuts.

I would tell you to just stop, but you don't seem to be realizing how you sound, so keep firing away, its great entertainment.
 

Skidoosh

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I don't think standing around off the streets (as ordered by the police) is wrong. Especially at the distance I was at.

http://www.westernfrontonline.net/features/article_81eba826-39c3-11e3-b651-0019bb30f31a.html

^ good read on mob mentality, because lets be honest, we aren't getting any work done today.

"In other words, bystanders don’t have to be egging on the violence; the bewildered on-looking eyes of spectators can be all it takes to reinforce criminal behavior, he said."