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06_CY

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QB would be a shoe-in for a medical redshirt. He didn't even play one quarter of one game.
 

theshadow

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QB would be a shoe-in for a medical redshirt. He didn't even play one quarter of one game.

If you've already used a regular redshirt year for a reason other than injury (and are therefore asking for a 6th year), it's not a lock. He would certainly be eligible to make the request, though.

If you haven't used a regular redshirt year and are asking for a 5th year, it's pretty much a rubber stamp acceptance because the NCAA already allows 5 years to play 4.
 

besserheimerphat

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Only if they miss most of two seasons due to injuries. Though it is one of those areas where the NCAA isn't always consistent, sometimes they give it to people who only miss one season.

I thought this was one thing the NCAA was pretty straight about - if the player missed >X% of the season (something like 75% I think) then he is eligible for a medical redshirt. Doesn't mean he'd get it, but he'd be eligible to apply. So the question then is, if he's suddenly cleared to play with 2 games left and we're like 1-9 or 2-8, do you bring him back and try to get wins now or keep him out and hope he gets the extra year?
 

ISUCY23

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If you've already used a regular redshirt year for a reason other than injury (and are therefore asking for a 6th year), it's not a lock. He would certainly be eligible to make the request, though.

If you haven't used a regular redshirt year and are asking for a 5th year, it's pretty much a rubber stamp acceptance because the NCAA already allows 5 years to play 4.

It is almost certainly a lock if he wants it. He played 3 plays this year.
 

demoncore1031

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I thought this was one thing the NCAA was pretty straight about - if the player missed >X% of the season (something like 75% I think) then he is eligible for a medical redshirt. Doesn't mean he'd get it, but he'd be eligible to apply. So the question then is, if he's suddenly cleared to play with 2 games left and we're like 1-9 or 2-8, do you bring him back and try to get wins now or keep him out and hope he gets the extra year?

But if an ISU player tries getting a medical redshirt season he is automatically denied. I think that is in the NCAA's rules.
 

sheepplucker

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that sucks.. I guess we are going to get to see what our new receivers can do this year.
 

theshadow

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It is almost certainly a lock if he wants it.

Except it isn't. I'll bold the key phrases for you. Remember, this would be a request for a SIXTH year after using a regular redshirt year.


12.8.1.5.1 Waiver Criteria. A waiver of the five-year period of eligibility is designed to provide a student-athlete with the opportunity to participate in four seasons of intercollegiate competition within a five-year period. This waiver may be granted, based upon objective evidence, for reasons that are beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution, which deprive the student-athlete of the opportunity to participate for more than one season in his or her sport within the five-year period. The Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement reserves the right to review requests that do not meet the more-than-one-year criteria detailed in this bylaw for circumstances of extraordinary or extreme hardship. A student-athlete who has exhausted his or her five years of eligibility may continue to practice (but not compete) for a maximum of 30 consecutive calendar days, provided the student-athlete’s institution has submitted a waiver request. The student-athlete may not commence practice until the institution has filed such a request. Further, if such a request is denied prior to exhausting the 30-day practice period, the student-athlete must cease all practice activities upon the institution’s notification of the denial. (Revised: 4/17/91, 1/11/94, 8/10/94, 10/12/95, 8/12/97, 4/27/00, 1/9/06, 7/30/10, 7/31/14)

12.8.1.5.1.2 Circumstances Within Control.
Circumstances that are considered to be within the control of the student-athlete or the institution and cause a participation opportunity to be used include, but are not limited to, the following: (Adopted: 8/10/94, Revised: 10/12/95, 10/9/96, 7/30/10, 7/31/14)
(a) A student-athlete’s decision to attend an institution that does not sponsor his/her sport, or decides not to participate at an institution that does sponsor his/her sport;
(b) An inability to participate due to failure to meet institutional/conference or NCAA academic requirements, or disciplinary reasons or incarceration culminating in or resulting from a conviction;
(c) Reliance by a student-athlete upon misinformation from a coaching staff member;
(d) Redshirt year;
(e) An inability to participate as a result of a transfer year in residence or fulfilling a condition for restoration of eligibility; and
(f) A student-athlete’s lack of understanding regarding the specific starting date of his or her five-year period of eligibility.
 

Covenant Clone

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Treadmills strike again. How many knee injuries have there been now?
You think we are the only program (pro and college) that trains with treadmills? Can't help you if you think that's the case...high speed treadmill work has been part of training regimens for a long time. Just a string of bad luck.
 

CarolinaCy

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So the question then is, if he's suddenly cleared to play with 2 games left and we're like 1-9 or 2-8, do you bring him back and try to get wins now or keep him out and hope he gets the extra year?

Torn ACL? Other than rehab, QB isn't doing anything with the football team until spring practice.
 

Judoka

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I thought this was one thing the NCAA was pretty straight about - if the player missed >X% of the season (something like 75% I think) then he is eligible for a medical redshirt. Doesn't mean he'd get it, but he'd be eligible to apply. So the question then is, if he's suddenly cleared to play with 2 games left and we're like 1-9 or 2-8, do you bring him back and try to get wins now or keep him out and hope he gets the extra year?

That's only for players who did not take a normal redshirt. They are much more lenient in that situation. If a player took a normal redshirt the standards for a medical redshirt require missing most of two seasons, not just one.