OL Jacob Gannon has left the ISU program

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Antihawk240

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Are we really suggesting that him quitting football during his 5th year is going to interfere with his job prospects? Really?

Given my experience, it very well may. Since I graduated from Iowa State I've had 3 job interviews. Each and every time they asked permission to call my old coach when I was at Iowa State. Coach would always call me and check in and see how I was doing and to let me know he gave me a good referral. Not sure if other D1 athletes who go on in careers outside athletics get this treatment but for all 3 interviewers over the course of 10 years calls up my old coach, it might be a norm in my industry. But if it's the same drill as me, Gannon better be ready to explain himself.
 

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Given my experience, it very well may. Since I graduated from Iowa State I've had 3 job interviews. Each and every time they asked permission to call my old coach when I was at Iowa State. Coach would always call me and check in and see how I was doing and to let me know he gave me a good referral. Not sure if other D1 athletes who go on in careers outside athletics get this treatment but for all 3 interviewers over the course of 10 years calls up my old coach, it might be a norm in my industry. But if it's the same drill as me, Gannon better be ready to explain himself.

Which will be easy to do. You guys are acting like he is that kid from USC that quit and called everyone a racist. From the sounds of it he quit because he was worn out and had different priorities, again, like focusing on his education and working, two traits that appear to be quite important in the working world.
 

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My Kid decided to play 3 Fall sports. Cross Country is 1.

He is burnt out and wants to quit Cross country.

I said no. You are not a quitter. You don't have to go out next year, but this year you will not let your coaches and team down.

He is not on scholly. I still pay his bus pass..lol

Not knowing Gannon's situation,
but if its just burnt out that is BS.

You are in the "fun part" of the season. There is something else wrong.

I am sympathetic with the "burnt out" and want to get on with your career logic, and I had no problem with the way Brandon Jensen did it. That was appropriate.

Storming out of a practice 3 days before a game you are scheduled to start because you are ****** off is about as close to the opposite of that as you can get. That's not what you do if you are burnt out. That's what you do if something else is the problem.

As several others have said up thread, it's not the decision that's the problem here, it's the timing.

Also, I can understand (but disagree) with the argument that he didn't owe anything to his coaches or his school. But he is part of a team, and he sure as hell owed something better than this to his teammates.
 

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I am sympathetic with the "burnt out" and want to get on with your career logic, and I had no problem with the way Brandon Jensen did it. That was appropriate.

Storming out of a practice 3 days before a game you are scheduled to start because you are ****** off is about as close to the opposite of that as you can get. That's not what you do if you are burnt out. That's what you do if something else is the problem.

As several others have said up thread, it's not the decision that's the problem here, it's the timing.

So now we are blaming him for trying to stick it out?
 

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This is one of the dumbest things ever posted on the internet.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Reading your post history this is not even in the top 20 of the stupidest things you have posted this year.
 

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It's so easy to jump to conclusions about why he quit considering the circumstances of the program right now. But maybe it's just as simple as him not wanting to play anymore. It happens. The timing of the decision obviously could have been better but I appreciate him being honest with himself and walking away if his heart isn't in it. Best of luck to him.
And good luck to Jake Campos, too. Sink or swim time.
 

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His decision shows some combination of poor judgment, immaturity, selfishness, and lack of toughness. Many adults have to do all kinds of **** on a daily basis that we would rather not be doing. But you do it anyway because you've made commitments. I'm sure almost everyone has had multiple experiences of wishing you had never taken on a project, a committee assignment, a volunteering responsibility. But you do it anyway. Is that acting out of self-interest or some charitable spirit? It doesn't really matter, two sides of the same coin.
 

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I am sympathetic with the "burnt out" and want to get on with your career logic, and I had no problem with the way Brandon Jensen did it. That was appropriate.

Storming out of a practice 3 days before a game you are scheduled to start because you are ****** off is about as close to the opposite of that as you can get. That's not what you do if you are burnt out. That's what you do if something else is the problem.

As several others have said up thread, it's not the decision that's the problem here, it's the timing.

Also, I can understand (but disagree) with the argument that he didn't owe anything to his coaches or his school. But he is part of a team, and he sure as hell owed something better than this to his teammates.

Be careful what you wish for. He may be swallowing a lot of bile related to the state of the program by limiting his comments to "i'm burnt out." Would you rather have him air a list of grievances? It could be that he's taking the high road. Point is, there's much we don't know.
 

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So now we are blaming him for trying to stick it out?

The only thing I'm blaming him for is quitting on his teammates. I don't see how that is arguable.

But my main take away is that something else is rotten here, there is a bigger problem than just this.
 

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Which will be easy to do. You guys are acting like he is that kid from USC that quit and called everyone a racist. From the sounds of it he quit because he was worn out and had different priorities, again, like focusing on his education and working, two traits that appear to be quite important in the working world.

You are absolutely correct. If that is the case for why he quit, (or atleast the excuse he chooses to use) then by all means the minute he says "I was a 2 time Academic All Big 12 athlete who came to the realization that I wasnt going to be playing professional football. What I did realize was I needed to get myself in position for my next career. Playing football was not getting me in position to do that." As someone who hires many people that would be an excellent response and would completely satisfy me.
 

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Be careful what you wish for. He may be swallowing a lot of bile related to the state of the program by limiting his comments to "i'm burnt out." Would you rather have him air a list of grievances? It could be that he's taking the high road. Point is, there's much we don't know.

I don't care one way or the other if he "airs the dirty laundry" or not. My point is much the same as yours, I just don't buy the "burnt out" story, my intuition says there is much more there we don't know.
 

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I don't really care for the reason he quit honestly, I agree its the timing I care about. If we are going to not be very good this year, then getting Campos/Lazard etc all the reps we can is only going to help us in the future.
 

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You are absolutely correct. If that is the case for why he quit, (or atleast the excuse he chooses to use) then by all means the minute he says "I was a 2 time Academic All Big 12 athlete who came to the realization that I wasnt going to be playing professional football. What I did realize was I needed to get myself in position for my next career. Playing football was not getting me in position to do that." As someone who hires many people that would be an excellent response and would completely satisfy me.

The hiring part is stupid, this wouldn't affect me hiring this kid at all, and as someone looking for software engineers, I'd love for him to apply.

But that quote doesn't jive with storming off the practice field 2 days before a game. That is what you calmly say at the end of the season, or during spring ball, or the beginning of camp. Once you get to game week, that doesn't cut it for me.
 

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How about we pick a few posters to be on a panel and set up a mock interview for Jacob?
 

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The only thing I'm blaming him for is quitting on his teammates. I don't see how that is arguable.

But my main take away is that something else is rotten here, there is a bigger problem than just this.

Ya, I tend to agree. There is a deeper issue with the program than just this.
 
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