Last drive of the half

[cyclonestunners]

Honestly, i expected the final result, and was actually happy with the fight our defense showed. (I'm sorry, but I feel terrible for our defense: Huge stops on 4th down, forcing Baylor to 3 and outs, and then our offense doesn't respond... It would be exhaisting and frustrating to be in that defense.)

My biggest beef with the game was how we stopped baylor on 4th down at our own 40 yard line with 50 seconds left and 2 timeouts... and we sat on the ball. What message does that send to our team? Heck, waht message does it send to other teams we play against this year? "Hey if we have 4th down inside the 40, go for it at the end of the half!! Iowa State won't try anything." We only needed 25-30 yards to give our kicker a chance. I was really disappointed in that coaching.

 

[CyCrazy]

This has been happening for years with ISU football.

 

[Cychedelia]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

 

[cyclonestunners]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

No, not at all. That was a "what do we have to lose?" situation. First off, why assume that the ball is picked? Have faith in our team that only had one TO that half. Also, it's not like we needed only risky long bombs to score. 10 yard out routes to the sideline would have worked as well. We aren't saying "why didn't you throw 4 hail marys?!?!" It's why didn't you run some pass plays for 25-30 yards (as had been successful in our scoring drive in the first half)

 

[Cychedelia]

No, not at all. That was a "what do we have to lose?" situation. First off, why assume that the ball is picked? Have faith in our team that only had one TO that half. Also, it's not like we needed only risky long bombs to score. 10 yard out routes to the sideline would have worked as well. We aren't saying "why didn't you throw 4 hail marys?!?!" It's why didn't you run some pass plays for 25-30 yards (as had been successful in our scoring drive in the first half)

I'm just saying, there is probably a reason why we didn't and it's not because we were playing "scared"

 

[CyCloned]

No, not at all. That was a "what do we have to lose?" situation. First off, why assume that the ball is picked? Have faith in our team that only had one TO that half. Also, it's not like we needed only risky long bombs to score. 10 yard out routes to the sideline would have worked as well. We aren't saying "why didn't you throw 4 hail marys?!?!" It's why didn't you run some pass plays for 25-30 yards (as had been successful in our scoring drive in the first half)

I have no problem with ISU trying to score on every possession really. Not crazy about throwing out of the endzone or doing something stupid if they ever find themselves 20 points up at the end of a half, but when you are getting your butt kicked like last night, there is no reason not to take some chances. They tried 2 onside kicks that gave Baylor a short field, and the only thing wrong with that is it looks like they need to work on execution.

 

[cycfan1]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

How many times have you ever seen a hail Mary returned for a touchdown?

 

[chuckd4735]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

I would of taken a field goal before the half; no reason to air it out, but try and move the ball and work the clock. If ISU throws a pick 6 whatever. 35-7 and 42-7 are pretty similar, both are *** kickings. However, ISU had the chance to score twice before Baylor ever got to touch the ball again. Even if ISU gets a FG and a TD on those 2 possessions (they got a TD on the 1st possession of the 2nd half), its 35-17 before Baylor goes back to work. Risk is well worth the reward there.

 

[TXCyclones]

Going for it right before the half? Like the way UT did in Ames a year ago? That'd never work...

 

[clonedude]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

No. What difference does it make how much you lose a game by? None.

As coaches you should always be trying to win the game.

 

[buf87]

Down 35-7, I thought we should have been more aggressive trying to get some momentum back or some sort of points.

At that point most figured the game was out of reach, so why not try something.

 

[Wesley]

This has been happening for years with ISU football.

And it sucks bad. Time for the staff to get some manhood at end of the half.

 

[buf87]

Usually we get scored on in the last minute of half. How many time in the last season and a half?

 

[BBHMagic]

Honestly, i expected the final result, and was actually happy with the fight our defense showed. (I'm sorry, but I feel terrible for our defense: Huge stops on 4th down, forcing Baylor to 3 and outs, and then our offense doesn't respond... It would be exhaisting and frustrating to be in that defense.)

My biggest beef with the game was how we stopped baylor on 4th down at our own 40 yard line with 50 seconds left and 2 timeouts... and we sat on the ball. What message does that send to our team? Heck, waht message does it send to other teams we play against this year? "Hey if we have 4th down inside the 40, go for it at the end of the half!! Iowa State won't try anything." We only needed 25-30 yards to give our kicker a chance. I was really disappointed in that coaching.

I hated that too. My guess is that seeing each team had about a billion possessions in the first half, Rhoads didn't want to risk Baylor getting it back and scoring because that would be devastating.

The way we came out in the 2nd half really shows they all still felt they were in the game. And hell, if it weren't for that inexplicable intentional grounding when we had the momentum, maybe we really would have been.

 

[alarson]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

28 points down at half, we were already pretty much out of that game. 35 points down wouldnt have been much worse, but at least we would have shown some fight.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Would people be singing a different tune if we tried to throw to the end zone and it got picked off and returned for a touchdown? I think yes.

I would rather see our team TRY than just sit on ball and do NOTHING.

 

[Cychedelia]

I would rather see our team TRY than just sit on ball and do NOTHING.

Eh, I guess that didn't bother me too much.

 

[Bret44]

It is what Rhoads does. He always sits, he punts on 4th and 3 at the 45 yard line, it is what he does. He is no longer a gambler. It would have surprised me to see him take a shot.

Of course I would like him to be a gambler, but Nebby in '10 changed him man, it really changed him.

 

[Cychedelia]

It is what Rhoads does. He always sits, he punts on 4th and 3 at the 55 yard line, it is what he does. He is no longer a gambler. It would have surprised me to see him take a shot.

Of course I would like him to be a gambler, but Nebby in '10 changed him man, it really changed him.

He gambled with the onside kick.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Honestly, i expected the final result, and was actually happy with the fight our defense showed. (I'm sorry, but I feel terrible for our defense: Huge stops on 4th down, forcing Baylor to 3 and outs, and then our offense doesn't respond... It would be exhaisting and frustrating to be in that defense.)

My biggest beef with the game was how we stopped baylor on 4th down at our own 40 yard line with 50 seconds left and 2 timeouts... and we sat on the ball. What message does that send to our team? Heck, waht message does it send to other teams we play against this year? "Hey if we have 4th down inside the 40, go for it at the end of the half!! Iowa State won't try anything." We only needed 25-30 yards to give our kicker a chance. I was really disappointed in that coaching.

I realize the defense got off the field and we didn't follow that up offensively but it also happened vice versa. Our offense would score and then the defense would allow points.