The defensive philosophy was different? You mean give up 41 instead of 50. Yeah i guess you are right. Btw we should trade user names.
sick of bend dont break
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Are you really blaming the defense for the past 2 seasons? If the offense scores 38 points in each game this season, ISU is 5-2. Giving up a lot of points in the Big 12 will happen, but when you dont have an offense that can put up over 30, you are not going to win games.
Do you actually want to discuss defensive strategy, or just point out that the defense didn't play well today? Because everybody knows they didn't play well today.
It wont matter what we do on defense until we get some solid defensive lineman. We need some JUCO monsters on the D-line.
Blitzing seemed to be a pretty major part of the gameplan. We were frequently bringing pressure.
For the record, Strong said he was ready to kneel and play for overtime until they got the return they did. IM SO SICK OF NETTEN NOT KICKING IT INTO THE ENDZONE!
This. I have no idea why Wally is thought of so well. Ever since he got absolutely punked by Tulsa in the second half of the Liberty Bowl, seems like he has lost it.
Fans hated Mess, but continually give Wally a break. Tonight was an absolute crapfest on D.
Look at the team. Playmakers across the board on offense. Essentially a bare cupboard on defense. Our best CB is a true sophomore who was known for getting torched three plays in a row last season. Our other CB is Sam Richardson. Our LBs are slow or undersized (or both). Our two best DL left the team before the season started.
Not trying to pick on anyone specifically, just saying that #1 problem with this team as a whole is the talent level of the players, especially on defense. Putting our defensive players on the field against even an average Big 12 offense like Texas' results in 40+ points.
When have we EVER been good on defense? Bend but don't break is more of a reflection of the talent we can get versus the level of offensive talent we are facing. We will never get the athletes to play an aggressive in-your-face D.
The talent on defense seem to continually decline. This isn't a Wally scheme problem. We have some very solid talent in some places and some major holes in others.
Sorry, but this is just another indictment of Wally. He and Paul have had SIX YEARS to develop a solid defensive strategy and good defensive players.
Anyone that says we just don't have the talent to compete on D is basically saying Paul and Wally suck at developing defensive talent.
Mangino has been here less than one year, and I can see strides we are making. Our defense continually sucks. Whether it is bend dont break by letting KSU march down the field before halftime with the exact same 8 yard out over and over, or this type of crap getting beat deep, it is all the same story.
I just don't get the love fest for Wally. Underperforming.
I'd generally agree. We hid a lot of deficiencies behind some talent that we dont look like we're replacing anytime soon (knott, klein, etc). We've been a disaster on D since losing them.
We are slow, not as big, and just plain not as good. our d just doesnt allow to play anything else. I hate it too, and trust me when I say that, I'm Vikings fan. But they got a new coach and faster more athletic players, so it works. I know its the NFL, but It takes a certain type of talent and coach, that has experience, to change a whole scheme. Wally just cant throw out the book and start new.
I don't think Wally is really responsible for the talent we have brought in; that's the coaching staff as a whole recruiting and identifying players to recruit. Wally plays a role in that, sure, but it's not primarily on him IMO. The preparation and game day decisions of Wally have been fine - they just look worse than they are because of the players on the field. This team won't get to where we want them to go without a steep uptick in recruiting, plain and simple.
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