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How crazy is our program that a consensus 4 star PG, lightening quick sharp shooter is looking down the barrel of very limited playing time as a freshman? Past teams he would have been our focal point and all future hopes would be pinned on him...
What?
 

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How crazy is our program that a consensus 4 star PG, lightening quick sharp shooter is looking down the barrel of very limited playing time as a freshman? Past teams he would have been our focal point and all future hopes would be pinned on him...

Let's not kid ourselves. He is not ready for that big Peter Jok role yet...
 

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We have 11 guys who could receiver playing time. It wouldn't surprise me out of those 11 if Custer becomes an odd man out.

He'll be good in the future, but if BDJ and Georges can play some point I'm not really sure what Custer brings to the table that's anything Thomas and SDW don't at this point.
 

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I think Custer will be really important to have out there if Monte is in foul trouble and the other team is pressing. I don't trust Georges or Naz to dribble through a press as well as a good ball handler in Monte or Clayton could.
 

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I think Custer will be really important to have out there if Monte is in foul trouble and the other team is pressing. I don't trust Georges or Naz to dribble through a press as well as a good ball handler in Monte or Clayton could.

No one is going to press us again this year.
 

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Custer was a 4 star recruit...he's probably not going to play a lot this year. In years past he would have been a starter and potential "savior" of the program. Just commenting on how far the program has come.
He was not a consensus 4 star PG like you said, nor is he a lightening quick sharp shooter.
But yes, Fred has the program to perhaps an unprecedented level. He is the savior.
 

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Custer looks like he's doing pretty well to me considering he missed time due to mono.

I think it's funny that so many are projecting him to not play, after one game and an exhibition. Especially at a position that we don't have a back up for.

I don't see us using a lot of line ups where Morris or Custer aren't a part of.
 

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Custer looks like he's doing pretty well to me considering he missed time due to mono.

I think it's funny that so many are projecting him to not play, after one game and an exhibition. Especially at a position that we don't have a back up for.

I don't see us using a lot of line ups where Morris or Custer aren't a part of.
Do you see him getting meaningful more minutes than last night? Do you see him getting more than 5 minutes a game?
I don't think anyone is saying he won't get ANY minutes this year, but rather he may not be a legit rotation guy. And you are right, I doubt we see a lot of minutes without Morris or Custer- but that does not really mean Custer is going to play more than 2013-14 Edozie like spot minutes.

If you went into this year doubting Custer would see time, that game did nothing to change your mind. Just one game, though. Personally, I was a bit surprised how little we saw of both Custer and Tsalampouris. Seemed like a good game to get those guys 10 minutes of meaningful PT to build depth. Imo, with SDW and Edozie each getting 18 minutes, the staff chose to do that with SDW and Edozie.
 

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Do you see him getting meaningful more minutes than last night? Do you see him getting more than 5 minutes a game?
I don't think anyone is saying he won't get ANY minutes this year, but rather he may not be a legit rotation guy. And you are right, I doubt we see a lot of minutes without Morris or Custer- but that does not really mean Custer is going to play more than 2013-14 Edozie like spot minutes.

If you went into this year doubting Custer would see time, that game did nothing to change your mind. Just one game, though. Personally, I was a bit surprised how little we saw of both Custer and Tsalampouris. Seemed like a good game to get those guys 10 minutes of meaningful PT to build depth. Imo, with SDW and Edozie each getting 18 minutes, the staff chose to do that with SDW and Edozie.

Yes, I do think he'll get some meaningful reserve minutes. Last night was not your typical game one, because we never were comfortable until the very end. It's his fist real game, second if you count the exhibition. He will get more time during blowouts, and see some actual reserve minutes to give Morris a blow throughout the year.

I am not predicting big minutes, but he'll average between 5-10, simply because he's our only back up. But with that said, I think he's looked pretty good so far when you consider his missed practice time.

He will be the PG version of Edozie. He won't play big minutes, but we'll need him to give Morris breathers and we'll need to develop him enough to handle some action if Morris fouls out.

I see Tsalbo getting about 5 min/game when McKay gets back.

Edozie will play a bigger role until McKay is here, then he'll basically do what he did last year.

SDW will play pretty sparingly when Nader and Thomas are back simply because there aren't enough minutes to go around.

SDW wouldn't have played until Custer/Tsalboris got in last night, had Nader and Thomas been there (and it was still close).
 
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I love Custer but there are probably going to be stretches of games in a row that he doesn't even see the floor once we get in to conference and that's fine. Seems to have a great head on his shoulders. With that said, if he does for some reason get a big chance and he grabs it then he'll get minutes.
 

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Yes, I do think he'll get some meaningful reserve minutes. Last night was not your typical game one, because we never were comfortable until the very end. It's his fist real game, second if you count the exhibition. He will get more time during blowouts, and see some actual reserve minutes to give Morris a blow throughout the year.

I am not predicting big minutes, but he'll average between 5-10, simply because he's our only back up. But with that said, I think he's looked pretty good so far when you consider his missed practice time.

He will be the PG version of Edozie. He won't play big minutes, but we'll need him to give Morris breathers and we'll need to develop him enough to handle some action if Morris fouls out.

I see Tsalbo getting about 5 min/game when McKay gets back.

Edozie will play a bigger role until McKay is here, then he'll basically do what he did last year.

SDW will play pretty sparingly when Nader and Thomas are back simply because there aren't enough minutes to go around.

SDW wouldn't have played until Custer/Tsalboris got in last night, had Nader and Thomas been there (and it was still close).
You basically agreeing with those that think Custer is not going to play as I doubt anyone meant he was going to see less minutes like Sledge. If your back-up pg is not someone you feel comfortable bringing in against Oakland to maintain things and get Morris a rest (or play them at the same time) and you need blowouts for a guy to be able to play...that is kind of what others were getting at. Games like that are a time to discreetly build depth. They chose to play guys that will have better players in front of them after one more game.

At the end of last year Morris was barely coming off the court, even when we had another PG. He is going to play 35+ minutes and I think the staff will be just as likely to add an extra wing to the rotation and go without a pg as they will be to bring in Custer.
 

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Custer may play more as the season goes on, but I'm personally not counting on it. Fred essentially used a seven man rotation last night, and all three guys sitting out will probably play. A ten man rotation is plenty, and it wouldn't surprise me if Custer is the odd man out this season.
 

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He won't get many minutes this year, not b/c he isn't good, but he's a freshman on a deep bench. Next year he'll be in the heavy rotation as long as he can play D and hit 3s.
 

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5-10 minutes a game is all we'll need from Custer. I'm not surprised he was limited because of the mono.
 

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Yes, I do think he'll get some meaningful reserve minutes. Last night was not your typical game one, because we never were comfortable until the very end. It's his fist real game, second if you count the exhibition. He will get more time during blowouts, and see some actual reserve minutes to give Morris a blow throughout the year.

I am not predicting big minutes, but he'll average between 5-10, simply because he's our only back up. But with that said, I think he's looked pretty good so far when you consider his missed practice time.

He will be the PG version of Edozie. He won't play big minutes, but we'll need him to give Morris breathers and we'll need to develop him enough to handle some action if Morris fouls out.

I see Tsalbo getting about 5 min/game when McKay gets back.

Edozie will play a bigger role until McKay is here, then he'll basically do what he did last year.

SDW will play pretty sparingly when Nader and Thomas are back simply because there aren't enough minutes to go around.

SDW wouldn't have played until Custer/Tsalboris got in last night, had Nader and Thomas been there (and it was still close).

Blowout minutes are not meaningful reserve minutes. And I wouldn't be surprised if Edozie plays significant minutes all year. He is probably the strongest defensive post player on the team and they will need that quite a bit in conference.
 

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How crazy is our program that a consensus 4 star PG, lightening quick sharp shooter is looking down the barrel of very limited playing time as a freshman? Past teams he would have been our focal point and all future hopes would be pinned on him...

Considering that 4 stars are everyone from #25-#105 in the Class of '14 it's not that surprising at all. Of the players in that group that went to Top 25 teams, I would guess there are only a handful that will be significant contributors in Year One.
 

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We have 11 guys who could receiver playing time. It wouldn't surprise me out of those 11 if Custer becomes an odd man out.

He'll be good in the future, but if BDJ and Georges can play some point I'm not really sure what Custer brings to the table that's anything Thomas and SDW don't at this point.


11 guy will play. 11 guys are not going to get a lot of minuets in a game. There will be 6 or 7 that get the bulk of playing time, 1 or 2 that get 10 mins or so and the rest will get a few mins here and there.
 

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11 guy will play. 11 guys are not going to get a lot of minuets in a game. There will be 6 or 7 that get the bulk of playing time, 1 or 2 that get 10 mins or so and the rest will get a few mins here and there.
I'll go with no.
9 guys at most will see the floor in a close conference game unless there's serious foul trouble. I'm guessing SDW, Custer, GT won't play in big games.
 

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