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Here are our top 3 turnover leaders:
BDJ - 10
Niang - 9
Long - 7
I wouldn't say he is averaging a lot more turnovers than the other two guys. Again, more BDJ hate... SMH
BDJ is averaging 2.5 turnovers/game, Niang is averaging 2.3
If you are going to crucify him for one intentional/lazy foul, then you must have hated Kane, Ejim and Niang.
Yeah, ISU had 8 total assist last night, I know this. No reason for me to call Thomas, Nadar, Hogue or Long out on their assists, because they have had 11 combined assists in the first 3 games. BDJ had that many in his first two games accounting for over 25% of ISU's assist in the first two games, and has had zero in the last two. Im not saying this means he is selfish, and I am in no way a BDJ hater, Im just pointing out that he has missed opportunities in the last two games that he was fully taking advantage of in the first two.
BDJ was our best player last night. Wasn't a defensive liability and was taking it to the hoop when no outside shots were falling.
Was clearly frustrated with how inconsistent the calls were, as I'm sure Monte was, but they better get used to that.
Was clearly frustrated with how inconsistent the calls were, as I'm sure Monte was, but they better get used to that.
I can see your point, but I think a lot of it has to do with people missing shots last night when he did pass and BDJ not playing as many minutes against Alabama. The first two games might have been more of an anomaly from an assists perspective, as there were a lot more easy points to be had (fast breaks, open threes).
Our outside shot was as bad as it's ever been under Hoiberg last night. Who was trying to take it to the hoop? BDJ and Naz and BDJ with the most success. BDJ seemed like our only hope last night when we couldn't buy a shot.
I don't think some of the criticism of BDJ right now is fair, because he has been a very good player so far for ISU. However, we can't completely ignore his past either. Supposedly he had attitude problems at USC, and everyone is pretty familiar with his problems at UNLV.
Fred has worked magic with other supposed "problem" players, and he probably needs to work it again here with BJD. At this point, it is just too early to say it has been a success, or a failure, but we shouldn't unjustly over-criticize or turn a blind eye to his past and ignore possible hints of trouble. Time will tell.
Fred has worked magic with other supposed "problem" players, and he probably needs to work it again here with BJD. At this point, it is just too early to say it has been a success, or a failure, but we shouldn't unjustly over-criticize or turn a blind eye to his past and ignore possible hints of trouble. Time will tell.
Can't get an assist when your teammates brick the shots. Had 3 alone last night that should have been assists... by your lofty standards it would "be nice" to see Houge get a rebound in the near future.
Although I don't necessarily appreciate the posts denigrating UNLV...let me give you a UNLV fan's opinion of BDJ. Bryce is an uber-talented, individual player of basketball. He's not a great basketball player though. The two are mutually exclusive.
Bryce has the talent to be an NBA player, but his ability to play the game gets in the way. He's a ball stopper that disrupts the flow of the game. He's not against passing the ball, but he just wants to be the centerpiece of the game....he want to be Kobe/MJ....he wants the offense run through him like SOME teams in the NBA run the offense through a wing player.
If that's not what Iowa State wanted or needed, or if that's not the way Iowa State runs their offense and you thought you could bring him in and "reform" him...that Hoiberg was going to work magic on him (lol), you're not going to be happy.
The guy is very stubborn, and it's why he's at his 3rd school....leaving both the previous schools he's been at with year-end altercations. He's gifted, no doubt...but, we'll see how it works out.
btw...Gunnerclone... Black Flag fan here...love the graphic you're using
Bryce has the talent to be an NBA player, but his ability to play the game gets in the way. He's a ball stopper that disrupts the flow of the game. He's not against passing the ball, but he just wants to be the centerpiece of the game....he want to be Kobe/MJ....he wants the offense run through him like SOME teams in the NBA run the offense through a wing player.
If that's not what Iowa State wanted or needed, or if that's not the way Iowa State runs their offense and you thought you could bring him in and "reform" him...that Hoiberg was going to work magic on him (lol), you're not going to be happy.
The guy is very stubborn, and it's why he's at his 3rd school....leaving both the previous schools he's been at with year-end altercations. He's gifted, no doubt...but, we'll see how it works out.
btw...Gunnerclone... Black Flag fan here...love the graphic you're using
I don't think we need to flyspeck the guy either 4 games into the season given the turds that everyone else left out there last night.
These idiots ***** about him because he's the hired gun for this year... did the same ******** about Kane last year... ******* about Royce the year before that..
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Vaughn's stats scream "CHUCKER" so far much more than BDJ's do this year. We'll see how it plays out, but that's a stone cold fact as of now.
I agree. Its hard to criticize stats with such a small sample size. However, BDJ is going to touch the ball a lot this year and is going to be a top contributor in minutes. So that alone means he should be averaging at least 3 assists per game, IMO.
All I'm saying is I hope he understands Fred's system and buys into it. The first two games I was not concerned at all, but his last two have been a tad concerning. Yes, he was by far the best player last night, but the best player is fully capable of being a cancer to the rest of the team. Again, not saying this is the case, just hoping this is not the first transfer Fred has not been able to make fit in.
This. Starting to get pretty annoyed by this. Remember the irrational Thomas bashing last year, and how we found out it actually got to him through Twitter. Enough. If everyone played against their man the way BDJ did last night ISU is undefeated. It wasn't remotely the case.
We're not a great team right now.... Not sure what the point of your post was. Are we rivals? I don't think so....I've got nothing against Iowa State, and I think you have a fantastic coach.
I don't even dislike BDJ, and I wasn't disappointed or upset at him for leaving UNLV. I just thought I'd see how you guys felt about him, and I noticed this thread was trending and thought I'd weigh in.
I don't even dislike BDJ, and I wasn't disappointed or upset at him for leaving UNLV. I just thought I'd see how you guys felt about him, and I noticed this thread was trending and thought I'd weigh in.
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We played terrible last night. I did not think we were capable of that kind of offensive struggle. In my opinion, BDJ shouldn't be criticized for that game because without him we would have gotten blown out.
As for our attitude last night, I thought it was pretty poor. I, however, don't think the issue was BDJ. In my opinion, Houge seemed to have an attitude from the start. One of those games where he is more focused on trying to draw a foul, trying to get in a cheap shot, or trying arguing with the ref than he is focused on playing ball. I love Houge's energy and his toughness, but when he plays like he did last night I think it can be a huge distraction. As a senior, I would expect more. When he acts that way, I think rubs off on the other guys and I think we saw that last night.
As for our attitude last night, I thought it was pretty poor. I, however, don't think the issue was BDJ. In my opinion, Houge seemed to have an attitude from the start. One of those games where he is more focused on trying to draw a foul, trying to get in a cheap shot, or trying arguing with the ref than he is focused on playing ball. I love Houge's energy and his toughness, but when he plays like he did last night I think it can be a huge distraction. As a senior, I would expect more. When he acts that way, I think rubs off on the other guys and I think we saw that last night.
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