Big 12 Wrestling Expansion

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Being reported on Ok State site by J Carl

Big 12 Expansion

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Just a heads up. The Big 12 expansion is almost a done deal. It would bring the six Western Wrestling Conference teams into the Big 12 for wrestling, effective next season, making a nice 10-team conference/qualifying tournament. It's a two-phase process. Two of the three phases are complete. The conference office feels very good about Phase 3 being accomplished. I believe it is the final approval by the university CEOs.
If this goes as planned, good news for Big 12 and college


Not the best option for Big 12

 

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2013 Allocations

Conference	125	133	141	149	157	165	174	184	197	285	Total
ACC	4	5	4	2	2	3	3	4	2	1	30
Big 12	1	2	2	2	2	3	2	2	2	1	19
Big Ten	7	7	6	8	7	8	8	6	8	9	74
CAA	1	3	3	2	2	1	1	1	3	2	19
EIWA	4	2	7	4	5	5	4	5	5	4	45
EWL	1	3	2	3	3	3	1	2	2	3	23
MAC	4	3	1	2	3	2	5	4	3	3	30
Pac12	1	2	1	2	2	1	3	3	2	4	21
SoCon	2	1	2	1	1	2	1	1	1	1	13
West Region	4	1	1	3	2	1	1	1	1	1	16
TOTAL QUALIFIERS	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	290

 

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Allocations for 2012

Conference	125	133	141	149	157	165	174	184	197	285	Total
Atlantic Coast Conference	4	3	4	2	3	3	2	2	1	1	25
Big 12 Conference	4	3	3	3	3	4	3	3	3	2	31
Big Ten Conference	6	7	5	9	6	8	9	7	7	10	74
Colonial Athletic Association	1	2	2	2	2	4	2	2	3	3	23
Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association	3	5	6	6	6	4	4	4	5	3	46
Eastern Wrestling League	2	3	2	2	2	1	3	3	3	3	24
Mid-American Conference	4	1	3	1	1	1	2	3	1	3	20
Pacific-12 Conference	2	2	2	1	2	1	2	2	3	2	19
Southern Conference	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	2	1	11
West Regional	2	2	1	2	3	2	1	2	1	1	17
TOTAL QUALIFIERS	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29

Qualifier Allocations

 

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CONFERENCE	125	133	141	149	157	165	174	184	197	285	TOTAL
Atlantic Coast Conference	3	2	5	4	2	2	3	4	5	4	34
Big 12 Conference	3	2	3	3	2	2	4	1	2	2	24
Big Ten Conference	7	8	6	6	8	8	7	7	8	9	74
Eastern Intercollegiate Wrestling Association	6	4	5	4	5	5	3	4	7	4	47
Eastern Wrestling League	2	3	2	3	2	2	2	3	1	2	22
Mid-American Conference	4	5	5	4	5	3	5	5	2	3	41
Pacific-12 Conference	1	3	1	1	1	1	3	2	2	2	17
Southern Conference	1	1	1	3	2	3	1	1	1	2	16
West Regional	2	1	1	1	2	3	1	2	1	1	15
TOTAL QUALIFIERS	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	29	290

QUALIFIER ALLOCATIONS FOR 2014 NCAA DI WRESTLING CHAMPIONSHIPS

 

[KnappShack]

One step closer to NDSU joining the Big 12 as a full time member

 

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Moderators can merge the 2 Big 12 Expansion threads, sorry

 

[CyCrazy]

What western teams would join, and why do you think this is a bad deal or not the best option for the Big 12.

 

[Nycclone]

Utah valley, Air Force, Wyoming, northern Colorado and the Dakota states, both north and south. And I have no opinion other than lake bison might be happy about it.

 

[Muzzy]

I'm glad to hear this. The current four team conference tourney is a joke.

 

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They don't earn enough qualifers. Some weights got the champion in, but nobody in at that weight actually earned a bid.

In 2012, 17 allocations
In 2013, 16 allocations
In 2014, 15 allocations

I think the teams are NDSU, SDSU, Air Force, Northern Colorado, Utah Valley, and Wyoming

 

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Just no power teams, but NDSU and SDSU are trying to get better and Northern Colorado just hired Nickerson, but only has 5 scholarship, I think

 

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I was really hoping the ACC would have worked out. It would get us close to a qualifier like the Big 10 is.

But yes Big 12 had to do something and it is better than the Southern Conference

 

[Judoka]

What western teams would join, and why do you think this is a bad deal or not the best option for the Big 12.

It probably is the best option if the Big XII/ACC thing is a no go. But it is a bad deal because none of those teams are very good at wrestling. The WWC qualifier doesn't have a single wrestler earn an a****id at multiple weight classes most years. The rumored Big XII/ACC deal would have rivaled the Big Ten for quality and depth. This is closer to the EIWA. But it is better than what the NCAA is doing to the conference this year.

 

[Judoka]

ISU or Oklahoma State could probably beat an All Star lineup of the best WWC wrestler at each weight class. There are 12 wrestlers ranked in the WWC right now by Intermat, only 2 in the top ten.

 

[ljm4cy]

Looking at the chart's breakdown, it looks like the Pac 12 is shut out of any nearby potential partners. Any chance the Big 12 and Pac 12 combine their tournaments or are they safe?

 

[ca4cy]

Color me underwhelmed.

 

[LindenCy]

Like seeing NDSU and SDSU on board as well as maybe Air Force, but could do without the rest probably.

 

[Gorm]

I hear Mizzou might want in...

LOL

 

[cloneswereall]

Like seeing NDSU and SDSU on board as well as maybe Air Force, but could do without the rest probably.

IIRC, Wyoming and Air Force are the only two in that group that has had kids reach AA status on a somewhat regular basis.

 

[HGoat]

First I've heard about this. Not really an ideal situation in my mind, but we had to do something..

I was really hoping for an ACC/B12 merger.