Just out today- IA HS enrollment figures

mywayorcyway

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Mar 1, 2012
2,330
2,355
113
Phoenix
Keep in mind those figures are not total enrollment. It's only grades 9-11, so most of the schools on that list you could add another 30-35%.

Ah, you're right. I didn't notice that. Bumping it 30-35% puts it right about where it would have been 20 years ago. No change, I guess!
 

drmwevr08

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Nov 25, 2006
7,654
3,681
113
Arizona
I guess I don't understand why surrounding school districts go into Urbandale city limits. I am sure it was some planning way back when, but I know I lived in the Johnston school district from Middle school on and open enrolled to stay in Urbandale (just north of Meredith drive), just seems like bad planning.
Urbandale grew into surrounding school districts. All areas had to be accounted for even before the growth. It doesn't make sense to try and change the lines due to unrelated municipal growth.
 

Three4Cy

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Jan 19, 2010
4,258
2,889
113
West Des Moines

ruxCYtable

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Aug 29, 2007
7,371
4,373
113
Colorado
Why does the list only count enrollment from grades 9-11? Is it to determine the number of next years Soph-Senior classes?
I think it's just b/c it's the one thing they can measure with some certainty to provide an apples-to-apples comparison. Some schools might have trouble estimating the number of kids coming up from possibly multiple middle schools so I think they just use 9-11 so they have a relatively certain number they can use to divide the schools up into classes.
 

NATEizKING

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Feb 18, 2011
19,691
12,152
113
Hilton
Marshalltown sucks no matter where you put them for travel but right now Mason City and Fort Dodge are an hour and 45 minutes. That's pretty insane for a 4A school in central Iowa. Cedar Falls and Waterloo make more sense competitively than Des Moines but travel wise and not wanting to split with rival Ames probably makes more sense to keep them with Des Moines.
 

Incyte

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Apr 12, 2007
4,956
931
83

GrindingAway

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Nov 27, 2006
5,459
3,459
113
The main thing I learned after looking through this list is I have no idea what my former high school is called now.
 

Iastfan112

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Apr 14, 2006
4,004
1,306
113
They can go outly with each other or MC can go to Waterloo (actually closer), FD can go to Sioux City (like 10 more miles), Ottumwa who cares they can do whatever Newton is doing.

Draw a 50 mile radius around the city (Maybe keep Marshalltown even though they are just outside of the 50 mile radius) of DSM and that's the limit. The metro is big enough now that these other schools aren't needed and everyone is just wasting time and money unnecessarily.

Sioux City is noticeably further drive than Des Moines area schools for Fort Dodge(was 30-40 minutes when I went probably more like 20 after some of the Highway 20 improvements). Not to mention, being in a conference with Sioux City schools means Council Bluffs as well and that's some atrocious travel.

Fort Dodge and Mason City have no jgood geographical fits, the CIML is merely the least bad one.
 

CyFan61

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Oct 25, 2010
14,540
273
83
Seeing these numbers makes me scratch my head (again) at the choice to have 46 teams in 4A football rather than 48.

North Scott (690) can be in the same class as Valley (2,196) but Western Dubuque (654) and Norwalk (633) are too small to be competitive?

For the sake of eliminating those dumb five-team districts, 4A needs to expand to 48 schools in football.
 

Shawker

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Jun 19, 2014
3,129
4,950
113
39
Des Moines
For a dollar amount of $30 million dollars, there has to be a vote the school board cannot just approve it.

Didn't the Ankeny school board basically lose their mind and approve plans for the new high school and several other new schools that ended up costing a ridiculous amount of money without really going through the proper channels? I seem to remember they all got fired because of that. I may not be remembering correctly though.
 

tm3308

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Jun 13, 2010
8,189
1,608
113
Seeing these numbers makes me scratch my head (again) at the choice to have 46 teams in 4A football rather than 48.

North Scott (690) can be in the same class as Valley (2,196) but Western Dubuque (654) and Norwalk (633) are too small to be competitive?

For the sake of eliminating those dumb five-team districts, 4A needs to expand to 48 schools in football.

I'm guessing North Scott may have elected to stay in 4A. The state implemented a 700-student cut-off for 4A so that no school under 700 BEDS would be FORCED to play much larger schools. That doesn't mean those smaller schools can't choose to stay in 4A.

It's also worth noting that the MVC/MAC aren't nearly on the same level as the CIML in most sports. A North Scott has an easier time competing against the MVC/MAC competition than a Norwalk or DCG would have against the Valley/Ankeny/Centennial/Dowling/Waukee/SEP's in central Iowa.
 

Trice

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Apr 1, 2010
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12,173
113
Didn't the Ankeny school board basically lose their mind and approve plans for the new high school and several other new schools that ended up costing a ridiculous amount of money without really going through the proper channels? I seem to remember they all got fired because of that. I may not be remembering correctly though.

It was controversial because it was pretty expensive and obviously the idea splitting up a high school takes some getting used to. It required what, if memory serves, was the largest ever bond issue approved in Iowa at that time. I may be wrong, but I don't recall that the school board did anything untoward in getting that through. But most of them lost their jobs at the next election. I don't know if it was just lingering resentment or what.

That said, those board members who lost their jobs promised a big property tax spike then decreases in years to follow, and that has happened.
 

enisthemenace

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Dec 5, 2009
13,959
10,154
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Runnells, IA
Fascinating.

Largest difference between significant others/spouses?

My wife went to MOC-Floyd Valley. I went to Des Moines East. A difference in enrollment this year of 1,415. I imagine it was similar when we were in school. Damn, we come from completely different (Iowa) worlds. Thank you, Iowa State University :smile:
 

Gunnerclone

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Jul 16, 2010
75,619
79,899
113
DSM
Sioux City is noticeably further drive than Des Moines area schools for Fort Dodge(was 30-40 minutes when I went probably more like 20 after some of the Highway 20 improvements). Not to mention, being in a conference with Sioux City schools means Council Bluffs as well and that's some atrocious travel.

Fort Dodge and Mason City have no jgood geographical fits, the CIML is merely the least bad one.

I'll give you FD but as I mentioned in my post MC is about 40 miles closer to Waterloo/CF so how does that work out in your maths?
 

IAStubborn

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Aug 16, 2012
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When I graduated from Ottumwa in 2006 I graduated with 399 kids, and every class below mine was the same size so there were roughly 1500 kids in the school at that time. You can obviously tell that they were much more competitive back then in sports, now they are a laugh at best. When will they force Valley to build a 2nd high school? Its getting a bit out of hand.
It is calculated only grades 10-12.
 

DeereClone

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Nov 16, 2009
8,281
9,648
113
I'll give you FD but as I mentioned in my post MC is about 40 miles closer to Waterloo/CF so how does that work out in your maths?

You cite what would be Mason City's closest games. They would also have to drive to Dubuque, Cedar Rapids, and Iowa City in that conference. Dubuque is 170 miles, Cedar Rapids would be 135 miles, Iowa City would be 165 miles.

I guess you could do a conference of MC, Marshalltown, Fort Dodge, Ames, Cedar Falls, W'loo E/W. But why would Ames want to leave the CIML for that and same thing for CF and the Waterloo schools?