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dahliaclone

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Re: BLUM: The Mayor's dilemma

I am not sure if he leaves for the NBA or not but I think his health is a bigger issue than he lets on or anyone realizes. I wouldn't be surprised if he quits coaching for good (college and NBA) after next year.
 
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I think he takes twolves job before Bulls. Seems like he'd be a better fit as a GM somewhere. Guy can spot (and develop) talent. Twolves may eventually let that be a dual role if they could get him (similar to Doc rivers in LA).
 
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As long as Fred holds true to his promise of a national title to Ames, he can go to the NBA anytime after that.
 
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There's no way Fred takes an NBA job without having some front office responsibility. He knows the game, knows who the real movers and shakers are and who is really in charge of the team. When jobs offers come with some management titles, then maybe we worry. He's not going to take a coaching job on its own.
 
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cycloneworld said:
I agree with you almost word for word. The relationships Fred has with Bulls management will play a huge part I'm sure but the organization hasn't exactly been coach friendly in the past 20 years:

Pushed out Phil Jackson
Fired Tim Floyd
Fired Bill Cartwright
Fired Scott Skiles
Fired Vinny Del Negro
Pushed/out fired Tom Thibodeau
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Tim Floyd (49-190) - 4 years
Bill Cartwright (51-100) - 3 years
Scott Skiles (165-172) - 5 years
Vinny... oh Vinny... BUM (82-82) - 2 years

People can question all they want about why the Bulls would dump Thibs, but lets not drag the fates of those other bums into this. Any NBA franchise would have fired those clowns (most wouldn't have even hired them in the first place) and in the case of Skiles and Vinny they have been fired again for doing the same crap the Bulls fired them for.

I like Thibs as a tactician but his personality/style show why it took him 22 years as an NBA assistant to finally get a head gig.
 
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brentblum said:
It all depends on if there is an opening in Chicago. But if there is, I'd lean yes.
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I haven't read many of your articles, but I thought it was well written and you made some valid points. I agree with your angle as well. If Fred has the desire to coach in the NBA at some point in his career now would be the best time to do it. He knows it's going to be hard on ISU and Cyclone fans to lose him. However, it would be easier on him knowing that he's leaving them with a talented team coming back. If he leaves next year it would mean the roster is fairly empty compared to recent years and the team is without an elite coach. It would be a giant punch to the gut because the turnaround would be incredibly difficult. Then some fans may resent the Mayor for the situation he left the program in. Not saying it is right, but that's what some fans do. If he wants to leave at the time that is best for the program now would be it.
 
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Nazty said:
If Fred leaves and they just slide TJ in, kiss that great season we were hoping for goodbye. TJ has no experience running a team nor handling the expectations that this roster will bring next year. The best a team with TJ on staff has done is win 1 game in the NCAA tournament. Pollard can't put a top 10 roster in the hands of a coach with no experience.
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That's better than we did half the time when he wasn't here. A staff with TJ has never lost in the first round.
 
MrPeske

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No way he goes until his youngest graduates. Hope the twins become the McDougie twins and rule Hilton/Big XII for 4 years. Too many pros for staying in Ames, no freaking way he leaves for $$. The only way he leaves early is for health reasons.
 
huntt26

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Hopefully he fulfills his life-long dream later, rather than sooner

This just adds more emphasis to my feeling of realizing we need to enjoy the time he's here and stop bickering and digging at the players/coaches. We are blessed to even have him revitalize the program. He's going to leave, possibly soon. Just enjoy the time he's here.
 
ISUCubswin

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With all do respect, I'm just going to put my $0.02 in.

I don't get why we, as Iowa State fans, are freaking out about this. It's been 5 years now. We go through this every offseason. He goes, he goes. He stays, he stays. We can't do anything about it, so why analyze is?

It's like me in the shower preparing for my grammy speech, except I would never post it publicly.
 
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Section110 said:
I haven't read many of your articles, but I thought it was well written and you made some valid points. I agree with your angle as well. If Fred has the desire to coach in the NBA at some point in his career now would be the best time to do it. He knows it's going to be hard on ISU and Cyclone fans to lose him. However, it would be easier on him knowing that he's leaving them with a talented team coming back. If he leaves next year it would mean the roster is fairly empty compared to recent years and the team is without an elite coach. It would be a giant punch to the gut because the turnaround would be incredibly difficult. Then some fans may resent the Mayor for the situation he left the program in. Not saying it is right, but that's what some fans do. If he wants to leave at the time that is best for the program now would be it.
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Completely disagree. While the talent is here this there, if the new coach fails with that talent we will all be wondering what if Fred had stayed. I would rather have that final four run then deal with the difficult turnaround under a new coach the next year then underachieve with a great roster and inexperienced coach and have only a slightly less difficult turnaround.
 
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For everybody saying "Fred would be nicer to leave now so that he leaves ISU with a good team, rather than bolting after next season on an empty cupboard" I don't get that.
If Fred leaves this summer, does Niang, McKay, et al. all magically gain 2 more years of eligibility? No.
As of right now, 2016 will be a rebuilding year regardless of what coach is here.
I would rather have Fred coach next year and take us deep and then bolt for the NBA, than have him leave now and ISU take their chances on a new coach with a talented roster. At least we know what we're getting with Fred.
ISU is nowhere near a stable enough program to reload year after year.
 
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